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Old 9th Apr 2019, 10:38
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Latest estimate is end of June/mid-july at the earliest for the MAXs to be back in the air....
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Old 9th Apr 2019, 10:46
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Originally Posted by Smudge's Lot View Post
Latest estimate is end of June/mid-july at the earliest for the MAXs to be back in the air....
Er - I think I'll wait a few months after that before i book ANY flight or Holiday that uses a MAX.
Any company that puts profit before people doesn't get my business. And we've no wish to become a further statistic of Boeing's cavalier attitude to safety if it turns out that "The Fix" isn't one.
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Old 9th Apr 2019, 10:53
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Originally Posted by Buster the Bear View Post
TUI are in the market for used 737s. That clearly indicates the MAX issue is far from short term?
I'd love to know where they plan on finding some.

Any airline that was in transition as TUI were from NG to MAX wont be letting their NG's go for cheap if at all as they will need them.
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Old 9th Apr 2019, 11:07
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Originally Posted by sixchannel View Post
Er - I think I'll wait a few months after that before i book ANY flight or Holiday that uses a MAX.
Any company that puts profit before people doesn't get my business. And we've no wish to become a further statistic of Boeing's cavalier attitude to safety if it turns out that "The Fix" isn't one.
I don't think I said anywhere above that TUI intends to put the MAX into the air without any "fix". It's been grounded by Aviation Authorities, not by individual airlines.
How does that put profit before people????
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Old 9th Apr 2019, 12:57
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TUI have a strategic decision to make now ( if not been done already) that the MAX will be written out of the S19 schedules and to source replacement a/c, and/or try to utilise their own fleet as optimal as possible to cover the shortfall of up to 9 x 189 seat a/c just in the UK

6 MAX are parked and 3 more were due soon to join TUI UK
That loss of uplift is around 150 flights (departures) a week (based on a conservative 2.5 rotations per day)

They simply cannot attempt to re-jig the schedules in mid season, even if (and very unlikely) we see the MAX certificated again sometime this year.

The press reports that 2 or 3 EU airlines have taken their MAX out of the summer schedules and UFN and AA in the USA have canx 7100 flights (24 a/c)
Ryanair MAX200 were due for this summer - not happening now.
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Old 9th Apr 2019, 13:11
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I have a feeling that TUI may have already made the decision to not include the Max aircraft in their summer schedules, As it has been noticed in the last week a number of flights to Turkey that were due to be on Tui aircraft has now been moved to Freebird airlines often doing two rotations a day for Tui from DLM and AYT.

Further to this there appears to have been some capacity cutbacks made for example on Weds from MAN and LGW to PFO they were due to have Dreamliner out in the morning and then a 738 or Max in the late afternoon instead there will just be the Dreamliner flight which will just push the holiday costs up and expect that they start using more ad hoc capacity with TCX and EZY
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Old 9th Apr 2019, 22:20
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757 at BRS S19

Just checked my seat plan for a flight in Aug from BRS to PFO. Itís changed from a 737 to 757, so maybe the decision has been made to keep at least one 757 at BRS for S19.
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Old 10th Apr 2019, 09:25
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Originally Posted by Smudge's Lot View Post
I don't think I said anywhere above that TUI intends to put the MAX into the air without any "fix". It's been grounded by Aviation Authorities, not by individual airlines.
How does that put profit before people????
I meant the B word, not TUI.
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Old 10th Apr 2019, 10:19
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Jehtro's site has stated that G-CPEV's lease may be extended in regards to the 737 MAX issues.
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Old 10th Apr 2019, 14:38
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Air Tankers G-VYGM (destined for a summer with Jet2) is operating a FUE - MAN flight as we speak and did TFS yesterday.

IS this staying with TOM right up until it goes to EXS or just filling in for a couple of days?
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Old 13th Apr 2019, 14:04
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It seems from schedule patterns that BOH is getting a second based aircraft for 2020 summer Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays. Does TUI do this anywhere else? It seems odd to only double up at certain days of the week. Perhaps there is more to be loaded?
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Old 13th Apr 2019, 18:40
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Originally Posted by shamrock7seal View Post
It seems from schedule patterns that BOH is getting a second based aircraft for 2020 summer Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays. Does TUI do this anywhere else? It seems odd to only double up at certain days of the week. Perhaps there is more to be loaded?
Probably more to be loaded.
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Old 13th Apr 2019, 22:10
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Originally Posted by PDXCWL45 View Post
Probably more to be loaded.
Agreed, almost certainly more to come, as I can't see them dropping Ibiza and Mahon, both of which have been long running and obviously very popular.
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Old 16th Apr 2019, 11:09
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It seems TUI is dropping contract with Norwegian. Loads of flights base LGW in the beginning scheduled to operate by Norwegian (D8), now appearing as Thomson Airways (BY) in the last days.

I wonder how TUI will manage this fleet issue, absorbing D8 flights as well as 737 MAX grounding...

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Old 16th Apr 2019, 11:31
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Since Norwegian is leasing several a/c for their scheduled ops (see routes online), they would presumably have to lease more for these chartered services. Maybe simpler for TUI to charter their own directly.
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Old 16th Apr 2019, 12:56
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Originally Posted by inOban View Post
Since Norwegian is leasing several a/c for their scheduled ops (see routes online), they would presumably have to lease more for these chartered services. Maybe simpler for TUI to charter their own directly.
And lease directly too. One of the Titan A321's destined for Jet2 this summer has been working for TOM out of STN for the last couple of weeks. Air Tanker G-VYGM was working out of MAN for a while, G-POWD 767-300 from Titan is working out of MAN today and had done LGW in the last week, and also SE-RFR a 767 from the Nordics (ex G-OBYK) did a LPA run from LGW last week two.

It seems however that firstly as more of the 737's come back from Canada their is less need to lease currently (peak summer may be wholly different), but it seems that other than the titan A321 which has done STN services consistently for a number of weeks, the others are one offs, or a couple of days here and there, and that its only certain days of the week where they are short and it mainly seems to be MAN and LGW where they are using the leased a/c to cover the shortfall.

I wonder though as we move to peak summer time, is there going to be anything coming in for the whole summer to cover the max issue? (I know some of the 757's are staying longer but will that be enough to cover?)
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Old 16th Apr 2019, 13:30
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Any 757 operating from CWL this summer now that MAX is grounded?
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Old 16th Apr 2019, 13:52
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Originally Posted by Sharklet_321 View Post
Any 757 operating from CWL this summer now that MAX is grounded?
no the base will be all 737
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Old 16th Apr 2019, 15:48
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My flight on Thursday from MAN - ACE is now scheduled to be on a 789... Nice upgrade to the premium seats for just £15!!!!

Return a week later showing 752
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Old 16th Apr 2019, 15:48
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Both originally 737
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