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Old 12th Mar 2019, 22:56
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Just heard on ground frequency at MAN a 737MAX being towed for long term parking on taxiway Z which I think is the new taxiway in pier 1 T2 unles MAG are going to use it for trials
on pier
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Old 12th Mar 2019, 23:26
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Originally Posted by chaps1954 View Post
Just heard on ground frequency at MAN a 737MAX being towed for long term parking on taxiway Z which I think is the new taxiway in pier 1 T2 unles MAG are going to use it for trials
on pier
All aircraft going to park on Taxiway so they donít take up stands which are required at MAN. All TUI 737MAX will be doing.
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Old 12th Mar 2019, 23:32
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Which kind of begs the question why MAN didn’t insist that the ones in the air diverted somewhere with sufficient parking available rather than MAN


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Old 12th Mar 2019, 23:43
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The reason being that the planes had passengers onboard.
the crew want to be back at home base
maintence hanger at Manchester do I need to carry on

parking charges to be paid still
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Old 13th Mar 2019, 07:33
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In the eventuality no fault is found with the aircraft and the Lion and Ethiopian incidents are unrelated or found to be pilot error, who picks up the bill? Could TUI charge or sue the CAA? Insurance? Parking is one thing but five aircraft out could be very costly and tricky to cover, itís perhaps fine today but Easter and the summer season arenít far off.
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Old 13th Mar 2019, 08:27
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Should be insurance cover under airlines operating policy covering costs and expenses resulting from regulator initiated actions in response to a wider global aviation event. Though I doubt insurance underwriters will sit back and accept such risk specific to any new aircraft scenario. Possible some underwriters may look to exclude potential cover relating to a specific new aircraft. In which case, if product defect determined and manufacturer negligence determined, that may present route to legal remedy, perhaps? Could product modifications after the event be considered an admission of an issue in the inherent product safety? Who knows, only the lawyers and courts will decide.
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Old 13th Mar 2019, 19:55
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Today's STN flight operated by Titan A321 as G-FDZS positioned to BHX last night and is currently operating BHX-PFO with a 7 hour delay.
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Old 13th Mar 2019, 20:05
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TUI have had a rough time with Boeing these past years. Dreamliner delays now 737 problems.
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Old 14th Mar 2019, 13:13
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Originally Posted by mik3bravo View Post
Should be insurance cover under airlines operating policy covering costs and expenses resulting from regulator initiated actions in response to a wider global aviation event. Though I doubt insurance underwriters will sit back and accept such risk specific to any new aircraft scenario. Possible some underwriters may look to exclude potential cover relating to a specific new aircraft. In which case, if product defect determined and manufacturer negligence determined, that may present route to legal remedy, perhaps? Could product modifications after the event be considered an admission of an issue in the inherent product safety? Who knows, only the lawyers and courts will decide.
A standard airlines Hull & Liability insurance policy does not cover "consequential costs/business interruption" so it is unlikely the airlines own insurances will cover the costs incurred for a) carrying on flying using other aircraft or sub-charters b) the ongoing lease payments on the grounded aircraft c) additional cost of parking and storage. Every airline will now have a claim against Boeing to try to recover those costs, however I believe Boeing have a cap on the amount they insure for "type grounding" based on an amount per aircraft and a total amount across all aircraft. The amount Boeing insure of course does not limit the amount they become liable for (wouldn't want to be Boeing or their insurer right now). Does however mean that I am sure the airlines will not recover 100% of the interuption costs they incur.
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Old 14th Mar 2019, 23:51
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G-TAWJ which has been working for Jet Time all winter (and I believe should still be over there) is currently positioning over to MAN. Suggestions today the MAX will be grounded until at least May.
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Old 20th Mar 2019, 16:42
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Widebodies MAN/LGW to IBZ

Hello,

Any hints about TUI adding some more flights on MAN/LGW to IBZ routes for this summer? Last year some B787/767 night-rotations for July/August went on sale very late (around May/June maybe?). I wonder if this year they are expecting to operate these frequencies or otherwise they will be lost. As well, will we see any widebody operating these routes this summer? I think at least MAN was operated by 767 on weekly basis...

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Old 20th Mar 2019, 17:12
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Originally Posted by ROC10 View Post
G-TAWJ which has been working for Jet Time all winter (and I believe should still be over there) is currently positioning over to MAN. Suggestions today the MAX will be grounded until at least May.

whilst operated by Jet Time, the aircraft was actually flying for TUI Nordic...so not 100% leased out really, just utilising someone elses pilots effectively
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Old 20th Mar 2019, 18:46
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Originally Posted by FR8364 View Post
Hello,

Any hints about TUI adding some more flights on MAN/LGW to IBZ routes for this summer? Last year some B787/767 night-rotations for July/August went on sale very late (around May/June maybe?). I wonder if this year they are expecting to operate these frequencies or otherwise they will be lost. As well, will we see any widebody operating these routes this summer? I think at least MAN was operated by 767 on weekly basis...

Thnx!
the Friday afternoon flight from MAN was definitely a 767, I was on it a lot and the flight times are the same if not very similar this year so I would think that flight will be w/b, from memory, on around 4 days a week MAN flights were wide body into IBZ so Iíd imagine this year will be the same
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Old 25th Mar 2019, 09:21
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According to Jethros, TUI withdrew another 757 in the last couple of days. Have they got enough slack in the fleet to cover the max groundings? I would have thought delaying 757 retirements would have been the easiest way to cover the loss of the max for a few months.
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Old 25th Mar 2019, 09:57
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According to Jethros, TUI withdrew another 757 in the last couple of days. Have they got enough slack in the fleet to cover the max groundings? I would have thought delaying 757 retirements would have been the easiest way to cover the loss of the max for a few months.
Perhaps the Lease has ended and they have already been sold on??
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Old 25th Mar 2019, 10:20
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G-OOBG wfu and at DGX now. Probably not ideal at all for TOM, however as previously mentioned, they probably donít have a choice in the matter. G-CPEV is also due to be wfu soon.

However I believe the ski flights are now ending with many of the outbound flights last weekend going out empty to bring passengers back, resulting in many bizarre movements. Fewer ski flights may make things a little easier although the summer season is fast approaching.

G-TAWO is in QLA, presumably for major maintainance, as it was swapped with G-FDZX yesterday which had been there for two weeks. G-OOBA has also been idle at LTN since 28 Feb.

Does anyone know what has happened with G-TAWY (SE-RFX)? It operated for TOM for several months under its Swedish registration, then went to LTN for a while, was re-registered to G-TAWY, didnít operate any TOM flights, then flew to ARN. It now seems to be back under its old registration with TUI operating for Go2Sky. TOM need their 738s now more than ever so find this a bit strange.
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Old 25th Mar 2019, 10:20
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Perhaps the Lease has ended and they have already been sold on??
Yup and maybe a C check due as well £££££
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Old 25th Mar 2019, 13:26
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Originally Posted by ROC10 View Post
Does anyone know what has happened with G-TAWY (SE-RFX)? It operated for TOM for several months under its Swedish registration, then went to LTN for a while, was re-registered to G-TAWY, didnít operate any TOM flights, then flew to ARN. It now seems to be back under its old registration with TUI operating for Go2Sky. TOM need their 738s now more than ever so find this a bit strange.
Jethros site states that it will return back to TUI Airways once the 737 MAX are back in service. They effectively lost all of their 737 service because of that.
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Old 27th Mar 2019, 10:09
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Per Jethros, G-OBYF and G-OBYK have transferred to the Nordic register. Is this a permanent transfer or summer only? The split is normally 2 in Scandi and 2 in the UK in summer.
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Old 27th Mar 2019, 10:22
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Originally Posted by azz767 View Post
Per Jethros, G-OBYF and G-OBYK have transferred to the Nordic register. Is this a permanent transfer or summer only? The split is normally 2 in Scandi and 2 in the UK in summer.
It would make sense to transfer them as - like you say - two are always there in the summer (although usually YH is there) and all of them are there in the winter.
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