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Old 23rd Jul 2019, 14:46
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Hmm what equipment did they plan to use? What routing?
737-800 via Banjul I believe , company involved was Atlantic Star using TUI
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Old 23rd Jul 2019, 15:37
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Ok not a strictly direct flight then (I don't think it would be possible).
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Old 23rd Jul 2019, 18:50
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Ok not a strictly direct flight then (I don't think it would be possible).
Originally they planned a B757 operation ( leased from Icelandair) but that wasnít going to be direct. then the flights were planned from LGW .In the end the above flights were due to operate from LTN but the wind shear problems kicked off at St Helena and the rest is history.
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Old 23rd Jul 2019, 18:54
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Ok not a strictly direct flight then (I don't think it would be possible).
technically it would have been a direct flight just not non-stop. Direct flight means same plane, same flight number but could stop elsewhere enroute.
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Old 23rd Jul 2019, 19:16
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technically it would have been a direct flight just not non-stop. Direct flight means same plane, same flight number but could stop elsewhere enroute.
Fair point.

For the sake of argument can any current type make UK <-> St Helena non stop? Maybe some high end bizjet (Gulfstream 650 or the like)? Commercial seems out of the question (you can't land a heavy there).
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Old 23rd Jul 2019, 21:26
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Originally Posted by atakacs View Post

Fair point.

For the sake of argument can any current type make UK <-> St Helena non stop? Maybe some high end bizjet (Gulfstream 650 or the like)? Commercial seems out of the question (you can't land a heavy there).

A Bombardier Global 6000 would get you there (and back) non-stop...
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Old 23rd Jul 2019, 22:36
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Originally Posted by Falcon666 View Post
Originally they planned a B757 operation ( leased from Icelandair) Ö but the wind shear problems kicked off at St Helena and the rest is history
Icelandair would have surely had one of the prime sets of crews from around the world (along with Air New Zealand at Wellington and Loganair) for whom windshear and crosswinds are a daily event readily handled.

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Old 24th Jul 2019, 06:46
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Originally Posted by atakacs View Post
Ok not a strictly direct flight then (I don't think it would be possible).
You could get there non-stop in theory but not with enough fuel to divert should it be required (given how far the alternatives are)
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Old 24th Jul 2019, 09:22
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Originally Posted by atakacs View Post
For the sake of argument can any current type make UK <-> St Helena non stop? Maybe some high end bizjet (Gulfstream 650 or the like)? Commercial seems out of the question (you can't land a heavy there).


Tory party grandee Michael Ashcroft has twice flown his private jet there. It's a Dassault Falcon 7X, which appears to have more than enough range to fly from Britain to St Helena. Perhaps he will offer to fly Boris there and leave him at Longwood House like Napoleon.
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Old 2nd Aug 2019, 15:57
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Operating the fight from CPT was THE sensible equation to take up the tourists (who are actually aplenty wishing to go to the island BUT for ££££ current huge cost flying from from JNB on a tiddly plane)
Comair/BA threw in the towel after buying a brand new 737-800SWL for the route and then finding the wind-shear was off limits for their Ops after a proving flight.
Nambia have refused traffic rights at WDH or permission for the fuel stop from CPT

All a take of woe really init....

Flights from the UK were mooted YEARS ago now using TUI Netherlands from LTN via BJL
Why the Dutch TUI were asked and not UK TUI, and the cost of the empty Posn flights to/from AMS-LTN-AMS, and even before that plans were with Astraeus (I think) with a 757 was going to be doing it....

That is how long this debacle has been going on for!
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Old 3rd Aug 2019, 12:56
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Ani idea why Namibia is not cooperating (I guess politics but I honestly don't know).
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Old 21st Jun 2020, 14:46
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Out of interest would an A220-300 be able to make the flight? Given how it's possible to do transatlantic with it.
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Old 1st Aug 2020, 11:31
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Lots of nice little videos of first Titan 757 at St Helena. Looks as if it managed no problem with a test planned for around in the other direction. A 757 really is perfect for that route.
See Facebook St Helena Airport site and some on YouTube
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Old 1st Aug 2020, 13:30
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Originally Posted by CabinCrewe View Post
Lots of nice little videos of first Titan 757 at St Helena. Looks as if it managed no problem with a test planned for around in the other direction. A 757 really is perfect for that route.
See Facebook St Helena Airport site and some on YouTube
Titan previously put an A318 in to St Helena, saw a flight deck video of the approach and it seemed a tad lumpy, then they did some practice approaches from both ends.
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Old 1st Aug 2020, 14:42
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The Nepal Airlines 757 combi might be a considered purchase for titan to operate to St Helena, depends on performance data but there we go. Thats my tuppence worth on the story.
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Old 1st Aug 2020, 15:42
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"Icelandair would have surely had one of the prime sets of crews from around the world (along with Air New Zealand at Wellington and Loganair) for whom windshear and crosswinds are a daily event readily handled."

TAP crews who go into Santa Cruz in Madeira are the guys you want TBH - I've also seen some interesting arrivals at Ambon
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Old 1st Aug 2020, 18:35
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Originally Posted by Alteagod View Post
The Nepal Airlines 757 combi might be a considered purchase for titan to operate to St Helena, depends on performance data but there we go. Thats my tuppence worth on the story.
I doubt any reputable operator will be going near that.
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Old 1st Aug 2020, 20:42
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There must be a glut of 757s now, such as TUI UK ones. Didnít lots of them become freighters? Donít think itís all about cargo for Titan anyway.
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Old 1st Aug 2020, 21:16
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757 is a big and expensive piece of metal to be using to St Helena, with dwindling 757 operators around willing to take on the contract.

Embraer or C-series probably better suited
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Old 2nd Aug 2020, 04:30
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Well Titan previously operated an A318 ex STN with just one stop in Accra, just 32 business class seats but a fair whack of cargo so not sure how much weight restricted they may have been.


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