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Or, more likely, take the virus out, except that all destination countries are closed to non residents
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Exactly, I find it odd that it is only being introduced now that some measures are being slightly eased. Although, at times I am genuinely confused as to why so many people seem to be flying...
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It should have happened in January, when we could see this coming.
Not helped by people still going on holidays to Asia in February and March and then moaning that they could not get back.
It should have happened in January, when we could see this coming.
Not helped by people still going on holidays to Asia in February and March and then moaning that they could not get back.
I had a lovely time in Thailand in February. Can’t wait to go back.
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up preparation and warm people not to travel or did we give all airtime to something else? I don’t know the answer you see, I was in Asia.
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Refunds.
Just received my refund for a cancelled flight which was due to operate on May 27. No hassle, no requiring me to take a voucher just a straightforward refund.
Well done Jet 2, I know who I will fly with in future.
Just received my refund for a cancelled flight which was due to operate on May 27. No hassle, no requiring me to take a voucher just a straightforward refund.
Well done Jet 2, I know who I will fly with in future.
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I find the whole thing confusing.
How do we know what R is unless you have full testing?
The official line is as followsIndividual modelling groups use a range of data to estimate R including:
Now that's as clear as mud to me.
We are guessing ( estimating) based on data that 2/3 weeks old from various sources.
How do we know what R is unless you have full testing?
The official line is as followsIndividual modelling groups use a range of data to estimate R including:
- epidemiological data such as hospital admissions, ICU admissions and deaths – it generally takes 2 to 3 weeks for changes in R to be reflected in these data sources, due to the time between infection and needing hospital care
- contact pattern surveys that gather information on behaviour – these can be quicker (with a lag of around a week) but can be open to bias as they often rely on self-reported behaviour
- household infection surveys where blood samples and swabs are performed on individuals which can provide estimates of how many people are infected – longitudinal surveys (which sample the same people repeatedly) allow a direct estimate of the infection rates
Who estimates R?
R is estimated by a range of independent modelling groups based in universities and Public Health England (PHE). The modelling groups present their individual R estimates to the Science Pandemic Influenza Modelling group (SPI-M) - a subgroup of SAGE - for discussion. Attendees compare the different estimates of R and SPI- M collectively agrees a range which R is very likely to be within.Now that's as clear as mud to me.
We are guessing ( estimating) based on data that 2/3 weeks old from various sources.
Its simply a BS media thing for newspapers to get hold of and panic the Populi needlesdly yet again.
If we had had a brave Government and not one where Money comes before People theyd have kept lockdiwn on HARD until end of May at least.
But we haven't.
If we had had a brave Government and not one where Money comes before People theyd have kept lockdiwn on HARD until end of May at least.
But we haven't.
The trouble is the medical profession in Britain didn't "see this coming" in January. On Radio 4 this morning a doctor researching treatments for Covid-19 recalled a conversation with colleagues well into February in which they discussed 'this disease in China' and speculated that maybe it was a type of flu. He said that, at that time, none of them even considered it could be a threat in Britain. Hindsight is a wonderful thing but not constructive unfortunately.
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The trouble is the medical profession in Britain didn't "see this coming" in January. On Radio 4 this morning a doctor researching treatments for Covid-19 recalled a conversation with colleagues well into February in which they discussed 'this disease in China' and speculated that maybe it was a type of flu. He said that, at that time, none of them even considered it could be a threat in Britain. Hindsight is a wonderful thing but not constructive unfortunately.
and morning of 01/02. And where they were, the Prime Minister in particular, in the three critical weeks after that. The medical profession very much saw this coming and (hopefully) all will come out in a proper Public Inquiry. Hindsight sadly didn’t need to be required.
With regards to this thread Jet2 are all the worse for it.
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If l could foresee that we were going to be in deep s*** from this virus in January, why did the various scientific types not see or believe it, or did they just have there heads in the sand.
With regards to the R rate, this should not be seen as what is going on today.
I have noticed that the daily death rate is only showing additional deaths that have been registered in the previous 24 hours.
Looking at my local NHS trust hospital, they had a round 8 deaths recorded on one day but these were people who had not died within the previous week.
All l can say is good luck to all those employed by Jet2 and other airlines who l have friends working with, because it is going to be a long struggle before we come out of this nightmare.
If l could foresee that we were going to be in deep s*** from this virus in January, why did the various scientific types not see or believe it, or did they just have there heads in the sand.
With regards to the R rate, this should not be seen as what is going on today.
I have noticed that the daily death rate is only showing additional deaths that have been registered in the previous 24 hours.
Looking at my local NHS trust hospital, they had a round 8 deaths recorded on one day but these were people who had not died within the previous week.
All l can say is good luck to all those employed by Jet2 and other airlines who l have friends working with, because it is going to be a long struggle before we come out of this nightmare.
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If l could foresee that we were going to be in deep s*** from this virus in January, why did the various scientific types not see or believe it, or did they just have there heads in the sand.
With regards to the R rate, this should not be seen as what is going on today.
I have noticed that the daily death rate is only showing additional deaths that have been registered in the previous 24 hours.
Looking at my local NHS trust hospital, they had a round 8 deaths recorded on one day but these were people who had not died within the previous week.
All l can say is good luck to all those employed by Jet2 and other airlines who l have friends working with, because it is going to be a long struggle before we come out of this nightmare.
If l could foresee that we were going to be in deep s*** from this virus in January, why did the various scientific types not see or believe it, or did they just have there heads in the sand.
With regards to the R rate, this should not be seen as what is going on today.
I have noticed that the daily death rate is only showing additional deaths that have been registered in the previous 24 hours.
Looking at my local NHS trust hospital, they had a round 8 deaths recorded on one day but these were people who had not died within the previous week.
All l can say is good luck to all those employed by Jet2 and other airlines who l have friends working with, because it is going to be a long struggle before we come out of this nightmare.
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How high profile was Coronavirus in the UK at the end of Jan/beginning of Feb period? Just as it was escalating and the risks becoming clear did we ramp
up preparation and warm people not to travel or did we give all airtime to something else? I don’t know the answer you see, I was in Asia.
up preparation and warm people not to travel or did we give all airtime to something else? I don’t know the answer you see, I was in Asia.
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The trouble is the medical profession in Britain didn't "see this coming" in January. On Radio 4 this morning a doctor researching treatments for Covid-19 recalled a conversation with colleagues well into February in which they discussed 'this disease in China' and speculated that maybe it was a type of flu. He said that, at that time, none of them even considered it could be a threat in Britain. Hindsight is a wonderful thing but not constructive unfortunately.
Remember, we all watched Wuhan emergency hospital being built in a week in January and marvelled at it. If you work in aviation and are aware of the existence of long haul air travel, it didn't need much more to reckon it was going to come here in a matter of weeks, with 2m passengers travelling every 24hr. Perhaps if those in charge of preparedness had acted quicker we would have an industry left now. Just my personal view.
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This thread appears to have lost its focus- Jet2, not who said/did/didn’t do what with regards to the start of this current mess.
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Virgin Atlantic are looking to put back till August there planned return of operations, that is if the planned quarantine goes ahead, providing on them securing fresh financing.
Maybe Jet2 might consider this also?
Maybe Jet2 might consider this also?
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Fact is, CV19 is here to stay - vaccine or no vaccine. Jet2, like every other business, is caught up in it. It is irrelevant whether anyone saw it coming or not.