Jet2-5

[FFHKG]

Well the lock-down here in Spain was yesterday extended by a further 2 weeks to 26th April with indications that it will only be partially lifted then if the downward curve we have seen over the last few days continues, Therefore, I think Jet2 are probably taking a realistic view of when things may start to normalise.

[AirportPlanner1]

Originally Posted by nowhereasfiled

Vegas is about as strategic as Alicante.

To be fair Vegas is a global centre for conferencing and events but still not quite sure it’s ‘strategic’

[SARF]

If you can put 50 mill plus passengers a year through it could be deemed strategic,, although maybe not right now 🇺🇸

[Travel Agent]

Announcement coming at 10am, flying will not resume until 17th June....

[fanrailuk]

Originally Posted by Travel Agent

Announcement coming at 10am, flying will not resume until 17th June....

Announced at 09:30 today.

https://www.jet2.com/flights/incident

[Alteagod]

Blimey but probably best rather than movig the date every week or so.

[P330]

I still think June is optimistic. If it happens though, that’s great but I would still
expect some form of social distancing rules will be needed. I wonder how flights will manage that?

[zfw]

I suppose they have to work to some sort of date, however where do they think they are going to fly too?. Spain, Italy.?

zfw

[davidjohnson6]

I would imagine Jet2 will go for the destinations which traditionally see the highest leisure demand from the UK historically. Start with routes like Mallorca, Alicante, Malaga, Tenerife - maybe also Antalya and Faro and see how it goes. I very much doubt the more minor destinations will be flown in June

[ROC10]

Originally Posted by davidjohnson6

I would imagine Jet2 will go for the destinations which traditionally see the highest leisure demand from the UK historically. Start with routes like Mallorca, Alicante, Malaga, Tenerife - maybe also Antalya and Crete and see how it goes. I very much doubt the more minor destinations will be flown in June

Greece appears to have far fewer cases than Spain and other popular European countries currently so it might be a more realistic place to start. However, this obviously depends on several factors. The UK’s travel advice will need to change, Greece would need to be willing to accept tourists (they will obviously need the money but will they want to take health risks?). Hotels need to be open and well-staffed (or at least enough to cover the inevitably lower demand) and importantly, demand obviously needs to be high enough to justify operating flights. Even if lockdown is lifted in the coming weeks, it seems likely social distancing requirements will remain in place for at least some months so I don’t really see how leisure flights could be allowed to operate. But, of course, it helps to be hopeful that the situation will improve...

[SWBKCB]

Due to the ongoing uncertainty caused by the coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic, we’ve decided to recommence our flights programme on 17 June 2020.

Thought they'd have gone for a more ambiguous statement. This looks very ambitious.

[mariofly12]

Is there any chance that Jet2 might replace its older 757 with newer ones now that United is retiring its 752s and 753s or will Jet2 cut capacity by retiring them completely?

[ROC10]

Originally Posted by mariofly12

Is there any chance that Jet2 might replace its older 757 with newer ones now that United is retiring its 752s and 753s or will Jet2 cut capacity by retiring them completely?

Can’t imagine they would be thinking about further acquisitions at the moment. They have A321s arriving and will be lucky if they can even use those for the foreseeable future. I may be wrong but I don’t think many passenger airlines will be looking to take on 757s now. TUI have recently retired some (relatively) young 757s and it seems they’re all switching to cargo.

[azz767]

Originally Posted by mariofly12

Is there any chance that Jet2 might replace its older 757 with newer ones now that United is retiring its 752s and 753s or will Jet2 cut capacity by retiring them completely?

Two things, one I think new aircraft movement will be limited in the next year or two with a lot of frames getting scrapped or stored long term across the world.

secondly it depends on the UK market once (whenever it is) the lockdown finishes. If EZY go under EXS may have spaces to fill, if all airlines in EXS’s markets survive then I think you’ll see EXS come out of this a 738/321 airline, with the planned retirement of 733/752 accelerating

[davidjohnson6]

Originally Posted by azz767

it depends on the UK market once (whenever it is) the lockdown finishes. If EZY go under EXS may have spaces to fill, if all airlines in EXS’s markets survive then I think...

So something with a high level of predictability then ? If I were a CEO, being involved in discussion of the kinds of scenarios you are mentioning would make me want to cancel all non-essential capital expenditure and just think about corporate survival...

[Mr @ Spotty M]

Jet2 don't need the extra range that the B757 has, which is why they went with the B737-800 for a mid size aircraft and the A321 for a slightly bigger uplift.
The A321 is far cheaper to operate than the B757 with only a fewer seats than the B757, which is why Monarch Airlines retired the B757.
The RR engines on the B757 are getting harder to get slots for any rework required, this due to the amount of Trent 1000 work being performed by RR and other approved RR repair shops.

[LiamNCL]

The 757 is finished as a passenger aircraft as sad as it might be for some its had its day.

[OwnNav]

I still mourn G-BIKO's passing, flew on it when BA had it then watched it for years in DHL livery, unceremoniously scrapped...

[SAPEG3T]

Hypothetics

If the 757 and -300’s were all retired fairly soon, it would be around about 10 airframes less capacity (including the 321 acquisitions)

The schedule for Summer 2020 included from memory 10-15 3rd party aircraft. So it seems that come summer 2021 (Which I imagine will be a big one- more so than S20 was meant to be) they would be down by 10 aircraft.

Is there such capacity in the ACMI providers to fill this? Are there further plans for more -800’s to enter the fleet- or even, further 321 additions to cover this currently hypothetical shortfall?

What do you all reckon?

[SWBKCB]

So it seems that come summer 2021 (Which I imagine will be a big one- more so than S20 was meant to be) they would be down by 10 aircraft.

You're assumption that summer 2021 will be bigger than what was planned for 2020 is a brave one. I would imagine that Jet2 are more concernec about getting through this summer than what they are going to do next.

However, if you are right I wouldn't have thought capacity would be an issue - the a/c being released by LH alone would be enough to cover your estimated shortfall. And who knows, even the MAX issue might have been resolved by then, releasing even more capacity into the market.

Long way to go before we get there, though. Far too many imponderables and uncertainities means it's all guesswork.