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Is the A321 CEO line still open? They are similar capacity to the 757 (218/220) and therefore could easily replace the 757s. They could also use them to replace some 737-800's in BHX/STN and then either use the replaced 800's to continue to expand those bases OR open a new base elsewhere. Bases with A321 could quite easily be MAN, LBA, STN and BHX - not too thinly spread around the network.
Further to that in Summer when they lease Titan A321 if they replace that with a owned A321 they could send the Titan elsewhere (GLA, EDI, NCL).
Further to that in Summer when they lease Titan A321 if they replace that with a owned A321 they could send the Titan elsewhere (GLA, EDI, NCL).
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the inference was it was for new aircraft. They said they were talking to both major players.
Would mixing the fleet work? Or stick to one type.
Sure there are those who can answer that. I am a mere shareholder but the good news is my original stake cost 16p a share,
Would mixing the fleet work? Or stick to one type.
Sure there are those who can answer that. I am a mere shareholder but the good news is my original stake cost 16p a share,
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Yes they have made and delivered the last B737-800 to Ryanair, but they are still building and delivering both B737-800 & 900s.
However l doubt that they are still taking orders for new builds, might have a few line cancellations to sell but l very much doubt many if any.
However l doubt that they are still taking orders for new builds, might have a few line cancellations to sell but l very much doubt many if any.
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the inference was it was for new aircraft. They said they were talking to both major players.
Would mixing the fleet work? Or stick to one type.
Sure there are those who can answer that. I am a mere shareholder but the good news is my original stake cost 16p a share,
Would mixing the fleet work? Or stick to one type.
Sure there are those who can answer that. I am a mere shareholder but the good news is my original stake cost 16p a share,
Jet 2 will not go for any s/hand 767's - Had they wished to do so before now when they had a large 757 fleet then they would have got them - Flight deck common rating.
It's all about costs now - Fuel being the biggest cost, and maintenance, the 767 is not as economical anymore - they are old and will need plenty of TLC.
The likes of United, AC, AC Rouge, and AA with large (but reducing) fleets for now are still plodding the Atlantic have made them $$$$ as the air frames have been paid for times over and they have huge technical back up.
Jet 2 have tested the Wide Body acquisition and operations by leasing A330's (reducing the £££ risk) and using them only seasonally on peak routes like PMI and TFS.
When a large aircraft goes Tech/AOG and the airline only has one or two of these aircraft then the logistics of delay recovery etc is formidable and can break an airline if it suffers too many of these delays.
I think Jet 2 has been wisely cautious.
The 737-900 is a people mover (like the 757-300) and trades performance for extra payload - not sure if Jet 2 would ever consider these -
I doubt they could operate full in and out of LBA for instance...
It's all about costs now - Fuel being the biggest cost, and maintenance, the 767 is not as economical anymore - they are old and will need plenty of TLC.
The likes of United, AC, AC Rouge, and AA with large (but reducing) fleets for now are still plodding the Atlantic have made them $$$$ as the air frames have been paid for times over and they have huge technical back up.
Jet 2 have tested the Wide Body acquisition and operations by leasing A330's (reducing the £££ risk) and using them only seasonally on peak routes like PMI and TFS.
When a large aircraft goes Tech/AOG and the airline only has one or two of these aircraft then the logistics of delay recovery etc is formidable and can break an airline if it suffers too many of these delays.
I think Jet 2 has been wisely cautious.
The 737-900 is a people mover (like the 757-300) and trades performance for extra payload - not sure if Jet 2 would ever consider these -
I doubt they could operate full in and out of LBA for instance...
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If they still made the B767 (non freight) now, it would be worth considering. the B763 was the most common and variants ranged between 290 and the exit limit of 351, which would have put it on par with the A330's they lease in.
As for current WB aircraft, A330 or B787, Jet2 don't need the range they have so would be happy to stuff as many seats in as possible, so you'd be looking at around the 350 mark. However this does tie in with a previous comment that 1 or 2 of these going tech, would have serious repercussions. so unless they had a large order and keeping a few as spares if needed, i'd avoid the Wide-bodies for now
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As such there is not a short/medium haul package holiday large people mover produced unlike the Tristar at 400 seats, the DC-10 with up to 380 seats, and the A300 at up to 361 seats...all of which were seen in big numbers at PMI RHO HER AGP TFS LPA for instance
Hence we now see quite a few EU A330 operators use them well on short haul peak time routes.
Jet 2 Edelweiss Swiss TUIBelguim Eurowings Aer Lingus Finnair TCK/Condor (and previously LTU/Air Berlin with A330 & MON/OM with A330/A300)
The A330 does seem more adept to this type of flying than the 787 which has a capacity around the 290-300 mark
Hence we now see quite a few EU A330 operators use them well on short haul peak time routes.
Jet 2 Edelweiss Swiss TUIBelguim Eurowings Aer Lingus Finnair TCK/Condor (and previously LTU/Air Berlin with A330 & MON/OM with A330/A300)
The A330 does seem more adept to this type of flying than the 787 which has a capacity around the 290-300 mark
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