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Old 24th Feb 2019, 14:37
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Originally Posted by mariofly12 View Post
Yes i know the 738 flies without any problems to Canaries,Cyprus..I was referring more to the pax capacity issue, where a 737-700 can replace the 733s on thinner routes or winter routes. And the 737-700 might not have had the success of Airbus but it's still flown by TUI,Tarom,KLM,Blue Air, Germania until recently,SAS
I'm not sure which bases the 733 currently operates at, but as a general view of overall capacity, when the 757's are retired there will be a loss of capacity from the 757 to 738 of 46 seats whereas to replace a 737-300 with a 737-800 is an increase of 41 seats so there's a fairly even balance in replacing both of those ageing types. Having a standard fleet will also save costs
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Old 25th Feb 2019, 07:35
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Quite a few ex Jet2 737-300's at Kemble Cotswold airfield sitting in the sun yesterday sans engines - Guess these airframes are all for scrapping.

Re the 737-700 - a good aircraft - 148 seats and it will take you with a full load from LGW to Aswan in Egypt or across the pond to Newfoundland.
Also more ideal for places like GIB SEN and JER where the -800 is not able to optimally perform.

As we know the 757 will be sorely missed - I worked with it from 1983 and saw how it developed into multi role missions and the first UK ETOPS across the pond to MCO - An irreplaceable beast - not sure if Boeing will re-develop it in it's new aircraft projects.
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Old 25th Feb 2019, 08:20
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I'm not sure which bases the 733 currently operates at, but as a general view of overall capacity, when the 757's are retired there will be a loss of capacity from the 757 to 738 of 46 seats whereas to replace a 737-300 with a 737-800 is an increase of 41 seats so there's a fairly even balance in replacing both of those ageing types. Having a standard fleet will also save costs
B733's are now only based at BFS/EMA and LBA. B752's are only at LBA and MAN, all the rest are B738's. Hope that clarifies that issue.

People don't realise there are still a few relatively young 733's. G-GDFG/K/L/N/O/T are all between 20 and 22 years old, the way Jet2 treat them, they'll be around for a good 8-10 years yet, A couple of these are even younger than the oldest B738's in the fleet (G-GDFD / P)
Yes the majority of the fleet will be B738, but there will be several routes which just can't sustain the 189 seats on offer and actually makes it better to operate the 148 seats on a B733. It also gives then the option to switch capacity where it's required.

On the flipside, half of the B752 are 31 years+, so these must surely be on the retirement radar. Jet2 have dabbled in the A321 and A330's looking at the extra capacity they offer, and i've no doubt they could sell a lot more on some of their most popular routes, Ideally we'd need to see some sort of deal being made this year to allow these to come in and the B752's to phase out. This discussion has come up before on this thread, so wewon't dig any deeper than we need to.
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Old 25th Feb 2019, 08:31
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Although the cost is the same to operate an 800 as it is a 300 on sub 3 (ish) hour legs.
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Old 25th Feb 2019, 15:06
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When LS started to receive the new build 738s, they went to specific bases. Are the new and old 738s all naturally mixed around the bases now with no favourite homes for the new birds?

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Old 25th Feb 2019, 16:23
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Originally Posted by P330 View Post
When LS started to receive the new build 738s, they went to specific bases. Are the new and old 738s all naturally mixed around the bases now with no favourite homes for the new birds?


BHX and STN still have all new aircraft however over the summer months it isn’t unknown for these bases to have midlife aircraft. The rest are scattered around the bases.
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Old 25th Feb 2019, 16:36
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Originally Posted by P330 View Post
When LS started to receive the new build 738s, they went to specific bases. Are the new and old 738s all naturally mixed around the bases now with no favourite homes for the new birds?

Well Newcastle didnt have new 738s whilst the 733s were here but since going all 738 JZHZ & JZBK are here.
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Old 25th Feb 2019, 17:48
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Old 25th Feb 2019, 18:02
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Thanks guys.
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Old 25th Feb 2019, 18:40
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BHX will be all mid life 738s soon. With the usual caveat of airframes rotating through the base.
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Old 26th Feb 2019, 09:31
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Jethros is reporting Jet 2 to lose 3 x 757 200 winter 19/20

any ideas on replacements?
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Old 26th Feb 2019, 10:08
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They're being replaced by 738's
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Old 26th Feb 2019, 14:21
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The is a lot a talk that LBA will lose it's B752's at the end of this year. with the remaining 8x to be all MAN based from summer 2020.
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Old 26th Feb 2019, 14:34
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Jethros is reporting Jet 2 to lose 3 x 757 200 winter 19/20
Would be a real shame, If my money was on any of them, i'd say the 3 ex China Southern G-LSAG/H/I. These are the 3 oldest and must be coming up to a major C check by now (32y old)
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Old 26th Feb 2019, 18:08
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Originally Posted by Chesty Morgan View Post
BHX will be all mid life 738s soon. With the usual caveat of airframes rotating through the base.
Why? I can understand a mix maybe but why all, is there an operational reason?

Have Jet2 sourced the second A321 for BHX this summer as the schedule is very patchy when two are scheduled?

Good to see the first A321 arrive in April this year.

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Old 26th Feb 2019, 18:37
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Pete, I don't know. Perhaps the SFP models are more useful elsewhere (NCL for a start!).
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Old 26th Feb 2019, 19:18
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Have Jet2 sourced the second A321 for BHX this summer as the schedule is very patchy when two are scheduled?
I don’t think that there is to be a 2nd A321at BHX this year.

The “new” 800’s can be better used at bases further north hence BHX becoming all mid life aeroplanes.
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Old 26th Feb 2019, 20:40
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I don’t think that there is to be a 2nd A321at BHX this year.

The “new” 800’s can be better used at bases further north hence BHX becoming all mid life aeroplanes.
Cheers for the answers, all seems logical using them further north if there is a performance advantage.

Looking at the booking engine the few times where two A321's are scheduled looks more like an error, possibly where they have changed the original destination from an A321 to 738 and the seat-map has not been changed..

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Old 26th Feb 2019, 22:31
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Originally Posted by Plane.Silly View Post
Would be a real shame, If my money was on any of them, i'd say the 3 ex China Southern G-LSAG/H/I. These are the 3 oldest and must be coming up to a major C check by now (32y old)
Although not the ones with the most hours (according to G-INFO).
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Old 27th Feb 2019, 06:43
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BHX & STN were launched exclusivily with new aircraft , I would imagine the plan was always to even the spread of aircraft out over the years.
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