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Old 31st Oct 2020, 19:14
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Originally Posted by DjerbaDevil View Post
Agreed that "should things fail to improve", that the B733s and the B757s would be prime candidates for withdrawal BUT if the JET2 management considered that the summer of 2021 was going to be a disaster. However, before retiring wholly owned aircraft that are in good condition, surely it would have been better to delay or even stop the recent leasing of two A321s and /or return some of the 15 B738s they lease from external lessors.

The snippets of news are that summer 2021 is shaping up very well and that all the fleet will be needed to cover the season......things could of course be upset if the COVID-19 vaccine is delayed and even the BREXIT negotiations could cause a major issue but as things stand at the moment, it is said, that bookings for summer 2021 are good.
Apparently they weren’t able to get out of the A321 leases but I’m sure they really wished they could. Regarding the newer 738s, assuming Jet2 survive the next year or two, these will be the core fleet going forward and are more sustainable in the longer term.
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Old 31st Oct 2020, 23:02
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Looks like all holidays are going to be cancelled from Thursday.
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Old 31st Oct 2020, 23:55
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Hopefully flights from Northern Ireland will continue as no restrictions in place at moment
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Old 1st Nov 2020, 00:29
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And Scotland?
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Old 1st Nov 2020, 00:33
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Originally Posted by inOban View Post
And Scotland?
The announcements tonight don’t apply to Scotland but I think from Monday, under the new tiered system, non-essential international travel may be banned from Tier 3+ areas. I may be wrong though, I’d need to check. TUI have flown a 737 up to ABZ in preparation for a Sunday flight to TFS which would suggest they were planning to operate under the new tiered system, although I believe Aberdeen is Tier 2.
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Old 1st Nov 2020, 09:47
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Originally Posted by Rt Hon Jim Hacker MP View Post
J2 are crewing for what they think they need for the winter. I think UK aviation will be shut down again within a matter of days anyway. Hope Rishi has got very deep pockets.
This is incorrect, Jet2 are fully crewed (flight deck wise) for their summer 2021 schedule.
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Old 1st Nov 2020, 14:16
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Originally Posted by redED View Post
This is incorrect, Jet2 are fully crewed (flight deck wise) for their summer 2021 schedule.
That is correct. But lots of people aren't being brought back on line for the winter as they aren't required.
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Old 1st Nov 2020, 15:41
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Originally Posted by ROC10 View Post
The announcements tonight don’t apply to Scotland but I think from Monday, under the new tiered system, non-essential international travel may be banned from Tier 3+ areas. I may be wrong though, I’d need to check. TUI have flown a 737 up to ABZ in preparation for a Sunday flight to TFS which would suggest they were planning to operate under the new tiered system, although I believe Aberdeen is Tier 2.

Figures in Scotland have been relatively positive this last week. The exponential rise in cases has stopped. Cases have levelled off at around 1000-1200 a day for the past week or so. Hospital admissions are only averaging around 40-50 admissions a day. On top of all that, ICU numbers have been steady at around 80 patients for the last week.

Scotland seem to be managing the second wave well, the Scottish Government have said they’re cautiously optimistic. Therefore, further more restrictive measures don’t appear to be on the horizon.
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Old 1st Nov 2020, 16:05
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Originally Posted by Golf--Lima--Papa View Post
Figures in Scotland have been relatively positive this last week. The exponential rise in cases has stopped. Cases have levelled off at around 1000-1200 a day for the past week or so. Hospital admissions are only averaging around 40-50 admissions a day. On top of all that, ICU numbers have been steady at around 80 patients for the last week.

Scotland seem to be managing the second wave well, the Scottish Government have said they’re cautiously optimistic. Therefore, further more restrictive measures don’t appear to be on the horizon.
Number of cases in Scotland are pretty high considering the central belt has effectively been in soft lockdown for the past 3 weeks.

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Old 1st Nov 2020, 17:14
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Originally Posted by mike current View Post
Number of cases in Scotland are pretty high considering the central belt has effectively been in soft lockdown for the past 3 weeks.

Number of positive cases clearly going in the right direction.

Graph is from the Scottish Government website.

To get back on track, this data is clear evidence that Jet2 have a great opportunity to continue flights from Scotland despite the English lockdown.
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Old 2nd Nov 2020, 09:39
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Today sees the start of the B737-300’s positioning out to RMU for winter storage. FM currently on route to there now. 1st B757-200 going tomorrow - GLSAN from MAN.
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Old 2nd Nov 2020, 10:08
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Returning Flight Crew?

Originally Posted by irishlad06 View Post
Today sees the start of the B737-300’s positioning out to RMU for winter storage. FM currently on route to there now. 1st B757-200 going tomorrow - GLSAN from MAN.
Totally, truly anorak question, sorry - how does the flight crew get back to UK? Commercial as Pax with another airline or is there another (unseen on FR) Jet2 aircraft running with it?
Fascinated to understand how the logistics work in situations like this. Especially as Spain is a No Go area re Covid.
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Old 2nd Nov 2020, 11:59
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Originally Posted by Flying Hi View Post
Totally, truly anorak question, sorry - how does the flight crew get back to UK? Commercial as Pax with another airline or is there another (unseen on FR) Jet2 aircraft running with it?
Fascinated to understand how the logistics work in situations like this. Especially as Spain is a No Go area re Covid.
I would imagine they’ll return on another airline. It would seem awfully wasteful to send another aircraft out there just to come straight back, besides I think it would appear on FR24 if that was the case. The only case where that may make sense is if they wait a few days until there are several crew members out there and then it may be more justifiable to send one of their aircraft out to collect them.
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Old 2nd Nov 2020, 14:54
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most likely stick them onto FR ALC flights, cheap enough
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Old 2nd Nov 2020, 14:56
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RMU looks like Ryanair territory. Maybe come back tonights MAN flight.
If crew remained airside they'd be exempt from 14 day quarantine.
Wouldn't they?
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Old 2nd Nov 2020, 14:57
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We crossed. Lol
same idea.
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Old 2nd Nov 2020, 18:59
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Originally Posted by Flying Hi View Post
RMU looks like Ryanair territory. Maybe come back tonights MAN flight.
If crew remained airside they'd be exempt from 14 day quarantine.
Wouldn't they?
I’m pretty sure that as the crew will be returning “on duty/duty travel” that they will be exempt from the 14 day quarantine.
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Old 2nd Nov 2020, 21:00
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They will come back on A N Other commercial flight, and as they are operating crew they are exempt from the quarantine required for “normal” passengers.
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Old 2nd Nov 2020, 22:33
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They are big girls and boys, I am sure they can find ways back home.
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Old 4th Nov 2020, 08:01
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Flights from Scotland will continue from the 4th November onwards. Apparently Jet2 have it confirmed the restrictions don't apply to Scottish residents and flights. All could change if NS puts the whole of Scotland in a lockdown.
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