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Old 23rd Sep 2020, 21:42
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Originally Posted by MARK 101 View Post
Believe Jet2 are only planning for 80% of planned programme for summer 2021 which I suppose given current climate isnt too bad. Imagine TUI will be hoping the European operation will hold up better than UK without Brexit affecting it
Any plans for next year are just pure guess work at the moment. Nobody has a clue how next spring/summers going to pan out yet, and without a workable vaccine it ainít going to be pretty.
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Old 5th Oct 2020, 23:21
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Will be interesting to see what happens with Fosun for summer 2021, they have already done a deal with TUI for Cook flights.
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Old 6th Oct 2020, 13:52
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It's being reported that two A321s will be joining Jet2 this month - G-HLYA & G-HLYD (ex TCX G-TCDD & DH respectively). Not sure if this affects acquisition of G-HLYG which has been stored at Shannon since October 2019.
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Old 6th Oct 2020, 14:47
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Originally Posted by Gurnard View Post
It's being reported that two A321s will be joining Jet2 this month - G-HLYA & G-HLYD (ex TCX G-TCDD & DH respectively). Not sure if this affects acquisition of G-HLYG which has been stored at Shannon since October 2019.
What they expect to do with them gawd only knows; one hour Santa pleasure flights perhaps?? Socially distanced of course!

Can't see them carrying many holidaymakers anywhere any time soon.
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Old 6th Oct 2020, 15:11
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Originally Posted by ATNotts View Post
What they expect to do with them gawd only knows; one hour Santa pleasure flights perhaps?? Socially distanced of course!

Can't see them carrying many holidaymakers anywhere any time soon.
I imagine itís all for next summer.
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Old 6th Oct 2020, 17:11
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Originally Posted by Jonty View Post
I imagine itís all for next summer.
If I were running a business in the travel industry at the moment I think I'd be shedding rather then adding capacity. There's absolutely no guarantee that next summer will be any better than this summer regrettably. And surely if the A321s were required for S21, why take them into the fleet now. The world will likely be flooded with airframes looking for someone to fly for by next Spring.
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Old 6th Oct 2020, 17:26
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Originally Posted by Satoshi Nakamoto View Post
Will be interesting to see what happens with Fosun for summer 2021, they have already done a deal with TUI for Cook flights.
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Old 6th Oct 2020, 18:44
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Anyone know why AE has been in AYT for the past week?
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Old 6th Oct 2020, 21:22
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Originally Posted by anthbower1234 View Post
Anyone know why AE has been in AYT for the past week?
Itís not, itís in MAN
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Old 6th Oct 2020, 21:59
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ATOL Licence

Jet2holidays, the second largest Atol holder, is now licenced for 3,479,182, down from 4.8 million it had in April and the 3,915,000 it had in October 2019.
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Old 7th Oct 2020, 09:02
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OzzyOzBorn
quote =

The overriding impediment to the leisure market is quarantine restrictions, both in other countries and here in the UK upon return home. bookings will remain utterly depressed
Jet2 and others must plan around this, and lobby to ensure that government-imposed restrictions do not linger even one day longer than absolutely necessary.
= unquote

Here's the thing - How can they plan around this?
It is not just the problem of Jet2's or TUI's holiday pax having to quarantine when arriving or returning from their holidays when travelling against FCO travel advice, the overwhelming problem is that one's Travel Insurance becomes null and void once HM's FCO adds a Country to the no-go/non-essential travel list.

Thus Jet2, TUI et al, have then to cancel all of their upcoming package holiday flights from that moment on, until such time the FCO advice lifts.
(And advance bookings will also obviously dry up or dwindle, as pax will in the main, be reluctant to book a destination on the 'list')

The Tour Operator has a duty of care to its clients and therefore it would be reckless for them to continue to undertake any such travel against FCO advice and where Travel Insurance provision is nullified.


Folk that are still going away independently now against FCO advice who are flying on say RYR or EZY etc, airlines which are still flying to various no-travel destinations that are on the FCO list (Such as TFS LPA MLA DLM or FAO) are of course, supposed to self isolate upon their return, and be aware that their Travel Ins is null & Void.
Your EHIC card will still provide basic medical and emergency treatment however.
There are now some Travel Ins Policies that do provide some holiday cover if you wish to still travel against FCO advice, but Tour Operators will not buck this and will not fly their planes.
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Old 7th Oct 2020, 10:17
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I think most holiday companies are writing off this year and now looking to summer 2021.
All I can say is there better be a vaccine by then, or were looking at the total decimation of the U.K. aviation industry.
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Old 7th Oct 2020, 10:20
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Originally Posted by rog747 View Post
OzzyOzBorn
quote =

The overriding impediment to the leisure market is quarantine restrictions, both in other countries and here in the UK upon return home. bookings will remain utterly depressed
Jet2 and others must plan around this, and lobby to ensure that government-imposed restrictions do not linger even one day longer than absolutely necessary.
= unquote

Here's the thing - How can they plan around this?
It is not just the problem of Jet2's or TUI's holiday pax having to quarantine when arriving or returning from their holidays when travelling against FCO travel advice, the overwhelming problem is that one's Travel Insurance becomes null and void once HM's FCO adds a Country to the no-go/non-essential travel list.

Thus Jet2, TUI et al, have then to cancel all of their upcoming package holiday flights from that moment on, until such time the FCO advice lifts.
(And advance bookings will also obviously dry up or dwindle, as pax will in the main, be reluctant to book a destination on the 'list')

The Tour Operator has a duty of care to its clients and therefore it would be reckless for them to continue to undertake any such travel against FCO advice and where Travel Insurance provision is nullified.


Folk that are still going away independently now against FCO advice who are flying on say RYR or EZY etc, airlines which are still flying to various no-travel destinations that are on the FCO list (Such as TFS LPA MLA DLM or FAO) are of course, supposed to self isolate upon their return, and be aware that their Travel Ins is null & Void.
Your EHIC card will still provide basic medical and emergency treatment however.
There are now some Travel Ins Policies that do provide some holiday cover if you wish to still travel against FCO advice, but Tour Operators will not buck this and will not fly their planes.
Jet 2 are now offering single trip travel insurance to their customers which gives the customer cover whilst abroad if the FCO advise against travel due to Covid 19, and covers them for medical treatment due to Covid whilst they’re abroad. If they’re not already doing it I imagine it won’t be long before other tour operators and low cost airlines start to do the same, so that solves the insurance problem.

The major issue remains the strange concept that if you live (for example) in Manchester where there are over 500 cases per 100,000 of the population you have to quarantine for 14 days if you return from a country where there are 21 cases per 100,000, although I suppose that whilst it’s good that it protects returning travellers from catching the disease in the street outside their house, it does nothing to slow the spread in Manchester.

Until there is a vaccine or governments in places like the U.K. stop trying to blame someone else for what’s happening in their own country people are still going to be reluctant to travel, unless they are retired or can work from home during the 14 day quarantine.
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Old 7th Oct 2020, 10:44
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The major issue remains the strange concept that if you live (for example) in Manchester where there are over 500 cases per 100,000 of the population you have to quarantine for 14 days if you return from a country where there are 21 cases per 100,000, although I suppose that whilst it’s good that it protects returning travellers from catching the disease in the street outside their house, it does nothing to slow the spread in Manchester.
Frankly, with the level of new infections in UK it is amazing that the hasn't already put on the quarantine list of the majority of countries around the world, so before too long it won't be a question of insurance, or quarantining on return to UK, but spending your two weeks holiday in glorious isolation in your holiday hotel.

EU countries, by and large, are taking a pretty lenient attitude to UK arrival, that I believe will cease to be the case from January 2021.
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Old 7th Oct 2020, 10:49
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Originally Posted by excrab View Post
Jet 2 are now offering single trip travel insurance to their customers which gives the customer cover whilst abroad if the FCO advise against travel due to Covid 19, and covers them for medical treatment due to Covid whilst they’re abroad. If they’re not already doing it I imagine it won’t be long before other tour operators and low cost airlines start to do the same, so that solves the insurance problem.
I'm afraid no it doesn't solve the Travel insurance problem -
What you are quoting above is about Cover that is supplied if the pax are already away on their Hols and then an FCO advice comes into force -
Nothing to do with advance bookings or imminent upcoming travel, which is the problem now with Jet2 and TUI basically now cancelling Portugal (except FNC) and Turkey for the rest of the S20 season which included the last high season peak bookings of the OCT Half term which is a big loss of cash £££ to Tour Operators.

The only places left to visit for the remainder of S20 package holiday on the 'safe to go-list' is something like CFU, RHO, ATH a few other Greece airports, and Italy.

06 OCT In a statement, Jet2 said: "Due to the current government travel advice, we have taken the decision to extend the suspension of flights and holidays to the Canary Islands (Tenerife, Lanzarote, Fuerteventura and Gran Canaria) up to and including October 31st. "For bookings due to travel to Spain & the Canary Islands from 1st November onwards, we will provide an additional update once we receive further update from the government.

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Old 7th Oct 2020, 19:05
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Originally Posted by Vokes55 View Post
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Will be interesting to see what happens with Fosun for summer 2021, they have already done a deal with TUI for Cook flights.
Most of Cooks Holidays seem to be with Easyjet
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Old 7th Oct 2020, 19:19
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Originally Posted by rog747 View Post
I'm afraid no it doesn't solve the Travel insurance problem -
What you are quoting above is about Cover that is supplied if the pax are already away on their Hols and then an FCO advice comes into force -
Nothing to do with advance bookings or imminent upcoming travel, which is the problem now with Jet2 and TUI basically now cancelling Portugal (except FNC) and Turkey for the rest of the S20 season which included the last high season peak bookings of the OCT Half term which is a big loss of cash £££ to Tour Operators.

The only places left to visit for the remainder of S20 package holiday on the 'safe to go-list' is something like CFU, RHO, ATH a few other Greece airports, and Italy.

06 OCT In a statement, Jet2 said: "Due to the current government travel advice, we have taken the decision to extend the suspension of flights and holidays to the Canary Islands (Tenerife, Lanzarote, Fuerteventura and Gran Canaria) up to and including October 31st. "For bookings due to travel to Spain & the Canary Islands from 1st November onwards, we will provide an additional update once we receive further update from the government.

Jet2 travel insurance will cover you if you chose to travel against FCO advice, if you have one of their single trip policies.

https://www.jet2.com/flights/insurance?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign =Retail&utm_term=Insurance&utm_content=FCDO

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And with our single trip policies, you're covered if you go away against FCDO travel advice for COVID-19Ē
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Old 8th Oct 2020, 11:26
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Thats the most sensible thing I have seen a travel company do since this all started, however, with all the bells and whistles, I'd like to know the price and I'd read the small print very carefully.

EDIT
To answer my own question for a 5* 55 yr old with no medical issues for 7 nights. £55 which seems very reasonable to me.
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Old 8th Oct 2020, 11:48
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I'd also consider the wider implications, Jet2 insurance might over you for the trip. However if you have other medical insurance at home and travel in breach of FCO guidance, suffering a malady that has sequelae requiring treatment at home, you may not be covered.
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Old 8th Oct 2020, 14:32
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Originally Posted by Fostex View Post
I'd also consider the wider implications, Jet2 insurance might over you for the trip. However if you have other medical insurance at home and travel in breach of FCO guidance, suffering a malady that has sequelae requiring treatment at home, you may not be covered.
I would think that for the relatively few people that may affect the best thing would be to enquire of your U.K. medical insurance provider. Travelling to a country to which the FCO advises not to travel due to COVID 19 doesnít increase your chances of catching Malaria or Hepatitis (for example), and we are talking only about destinations that Jet2 fly to, not disease ridden war zones where the FCO might sensibly advise against travel. As we all know, it is more dangerous for anyone from the apparently COVID free areas of London and the South to travel to the North of England than to many holiday destinations 🙁
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