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Old 11th Dec 2019, 21:48
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I suspect some bitterness from some?
It’s ridiculous really. Two good additions from EasyJet and a 9th based aircraft. What’s not to like. Probably on the wrong coast for some people.

According to Gibraltar’a tourism minister the new route to EDI is one of the fastest selling of EasyJet’s new route launches today. It would be great to maintain this as a year round service from Scotland’s busiest airport.
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Old 11th Dec 2019, 22:01
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
Nine based units makes first wave a particular challenge!
There are 40+ overnight stopping aircraft at EDI in the summer period, so I don't think one extra easyJet unit is going to make much of a difference.
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Old 14th Dec 2019, 13:02
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Ryanair have put Girona on sale at 2x weekly from the 2nd of July.
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Old 14th Dec 2019, 14:33
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Another drop in passenger numbers.

https://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle/t...onth-1-5062319

A drop in passenger numbers at Edinburgh Airport has accelerated, new figures show.

The airport has cited falling domestic travellers, particularly after a service to London Stansted was axed, as driving the reduction.

A total of 1,000,246 passengers used the airport last month, down 4.3 per cent on the same month last year.

It marks the second consecutive month of falling passengers numbers, following five years of growth excepting a marginal 0.1 per cent drop caused by the Beast from the East in March 2018.

In October, passengers number were 1,309,170, a 1 per cent dip compared to the same month the previous year.

Domestic passengers were down 13.5 per cent last month to 411,819 compared to the previous year, while international travellers were up 3.3 per cent to 588,427.

The airport said Ryanair scrapping its London Stansted service had led to a 48,000 reduction in passengers but this impact was softened by a strong performance on other domestic routes, including increased services to Heathrow and a new route to the East Midlands.

Gordon Dewar, Edinburgh Airport chief executive, said: "We're on course for another record year at Edinburgh Airport and we welcome that but there's always a disappointment that we haven't been able to share Edinburgh and Scotland with more tourists.

"The end of one of our most popular domestic routes has clearly had an impact and the winter season always sees a small reduction in services so these numbers are not unexpected but it does show that the industry requires support to address the connectivity deficit that Scotland has."
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Old 15th Dec 2019, 11:04
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The drop in domestic pax numbers is mainly due to Ryanair suspending its STN service. It'll be interesting to see whether it gets reinstated once the Max gets ungrounded.
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Old 15th Dec 2019, 12:54
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They also suspended several other routes which had operated last winter.
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Old 16th Dec 2019, 09:11
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Loganair have added 2 new routes from EDI:

Esbjerg- 3x weekly Eff 7th May 2020
Hannover- 5x weekly Eff 17th April 2020

Great news to see Loganair increase their presence more.
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Old 16th Dec 2019, 15:41
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Doha to increase to 14x weekly.
https://www.qatarairways.com/en/pres...Press-releases
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Old 16th Dec 2019, 15:48
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Even better news! Another one of my rumours proved correct! Well done Qatar and EDI for increasing.
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Old 16th Dec 2019, 16:11
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Thats great news to hear.. slightly surprising though, as the loads haven't exactly been huge over the summer. So much for the blood bath everyone predicted when Emirates started flights though.
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Old 16th Dec 2019, 16:31
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https://onemileatatime.com/qatar-air...eports-losses/

Qatar Airways is an old fashioned flag carrier, built to get Qatar "out there". They also fly half empty B787s frequently out of CWL and the country is engaged in a cold war with the UAE. Not sure how much of this is commercially driven IMHO. They currently have six B789s on the flightline at PAE.

Great news for EDI though as the second daily DXB cannot be far away.
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Old 16th Dec 2019, 17:01
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
They also fly half empty B787s frequently
Ooooft... lets hope 'load factors mean nothing' is true...
One presumes its just double-daily for the previous summer increase period?
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Old 16th Dec 2019, 17:31
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The revised CAA statistics for October show that both Qatar and EK are growing from NCL, EDI and GLA. Is this new traffic or are passengers being abstracted from other hubs?
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Old 16th Dec 2019, 18:10
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EASYJET BHX

Now on sale !

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Old 16th Dec 2019, 18:16
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Originally Posted by BHX5DME
Now on sale !
Great news, Tops off all the other announcements nicely.
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Old 17th Dec 2019, 09:24
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
https://onemileatatime.com/qatar-air...eports-losses/

Qatar Airways is an old fashioned flag carrier, built to get Qatar "out there". They also fly half empty B787s frequently out of CWL and the country is engaged in a cold war with the UAE. Not sure how much of this is commercially driven IMHO. They currently have six B789s on the flightline at PAE.

Great news for EDI though as the second daily DXB cannot be far away.
Running a single daily flight at 50% for prestige reasons kind of makes sense... but you don't move to twice daily unless there's a commercial reason for doing so.
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Old 17th Dec 2019, 11:05
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Originally Posted by nighthawk117
Running a single daily flight at 50% for prestige reasons kind of makes sense... but you don't move to twice daily unless there's a commercial reason for doing so.
Fair comment, I wonder if it's as much to attack EK as it is to make money, I suspect both will be true. Either way, it's all upside for EDI and the consumer.
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Old 17th Dec 2019, 11:36
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
Fair comment, I wonder if it's as much to attack EK as it is to make money, I suspect both will be true. Either way, it's all upside for EDI and the consumer.
Looks very much like two Sheiks willy waving, and using their respective airlines as an alternative to a shooting war!

It's absolutely all upside for EDI unless / until both carriers blink simultaneously and walk away leaving EDI going from feast to famine. Happened at BHX many moons ago when Air Canada tried, successfully, to kill off Wardair on BHX/YYZ and I suspect that the excess competition between AA and UA lead to BHX having no proper direct North Atlantic services! Sometimes one needs to be careful about one wishes for.
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Old 17th Dec 2019, 13:15
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Originally Posted by nighthawk117
Running a single daily flight at 50% for prestige reasons kind of makes sense... but you don't move to twice daily unless there's a commercial reason for doing so.
I'm told by people who regularly use Qatar's EDI service that business class is often full and they either need to travel economy or travel on another day.
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Old 17th Dec 2019, 14:35
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I'm told by people who regularly use Qatar's EDI service that business class is often full and they either need to travel economy or travel on another day.
Qatar offer paid upgrades to Business, via their app, to those holding economy bookings, which probably explains why it is often full. Qatar Business Class is brilliant.
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