Edinburgh-3

[Rob Royston]

Originally Posted by Plane mad 134

I have always wondered why BA haven't got any mainline flights from Edinburgh to anywhere I know they tried Ibiza and it didnt work but BA Cityflyer are doing well on the Palma and its a wonder BA haven't taken the route of them and operated it themselves as Im sure they could fill an A319 once a week and possibly try Malaga or Alicante as well on a trial period? Although this is very unlikely to happen being in the real world.

Not sure if things have changed, but BA only used to fly to and from London airports.

[GLAEDI]

Originally Posted by Plane mad 134

I have always wondered why BA haven't got any mainline flights from Edinburgh to anywhere I know they tried Ibiza and it didnt work but BA Cityflyer are doing well on the Palma and its a wonder BA haven't taken the route of them and operated it themselves as Im sure they could fill an A319 once a week and possibly try Malaga or Alicante as well on a trial period? Although this is very unlikely to happen being in the real world.

IAG have tried a few routes from EDI with Vueling. The only one that’s survived is BCN. The Cityflyer flights are good way of utilising the EMB when LCY is reduced capacity at the weekends. Not much of an incentive to place an A319 in their with crews have to come from LGW or LHR with expensive hotel stays.

[edi_local]

Originally Posted by Rob Royston

Not sure if things have changed, but BA only used to fly to and from London airports.

BA Connect used to do EDI-HAM.

[Sk1schoolsam]

Originally Posted by GLAEDI

IAG have tried a few routes from EDI with Vueling. The only one that’s survived is BCN. The Cityflyer flights are good way of utilising the EMB when LCY is reduced capacity at the weekends. Not much of an incentive to place an A319 in their with crews have to come from LGW or LHR with expensive hotel stays.

Are the BA frames that overnight at EDI crewed from London? Could they not use one of these am on a Saturday?

[nighthawk117]

Originally Posted by Sk1schoolsam

Are the BA frames that overnight at EDI crewed from London? Could they not use one of these am on a Saturday?

BA mainline crews are based in London, and nightstop in GLA/EDI. I dont think mainline have any crew based here any more. They certainly could operate EDI to Europe and back in the morning, then onward to London, but they can make more money flying from London, so why waste an aircraft out of EDI? BA are short of narrowbody aircraft as it is, and are having to lease in operators for the summer to cover flights, to ensure they fully use their LHR slots and dont lose them. Adding flights from EDI would make the situation worse.

You need to think of the bigger picture, they may well be able to make money flying from EDI, but the important question is can they make more money flying from elsewhere?

[Sk1schoolsam]

Originally Posted by nighthawk117

BA mainline crews are based in London, and nightstop in GLA/EDI. I dont think mainline have any crew based here any more. They certainly could operate EDI to Europe and back in the morning, then onward to London, but they can make more money flying from London, so why waste an aircraft out of EDI? BA are short of narrowbody aircraft as it is, and are having to lease in operators for the summer to cover flights, to ensure they fully use their LHR slots and dont lose them. Adding flights from EDI would make the situation worse.

You need to think of the bigger picture, they may well be able to make money flying from EDI, but the important question is can they make more money flying from elsewhere?

Thanks nighthawk that makes perfect sense and explains why.....

[Rob Royston]

Originally Posted by edi_local

BA Connect used to do EDI-HAM.

Then they became London Airways.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/740435/BA-clips-its-wings-with-regional-sell-off.html

[edi_local]

Originally Posted by nighthawk117

BA mainline crews are based in London, and nightstop in GLA/EDI. I dont think mainline have any crew based here any more. They certainly could operate EDI to Europe and back in the morning, then onward to London, but they can make more money flying from London, so why waste an aircraft out of EDI? BA are short of narrowbody aircraft as it is, and are having to lease in operators for the summer to cover flights, to ensure they fully use their LHR slots and dont lose them. Adding flights from EDI would make the situation worse.

You need to think of the bigger picture, they may well be able to make money flying from EDI, but the important question is can they make more money flying from elsewhere?

They still have a crew room in EDI, Is this for cityflyer crew based here? I see plenty of BA crew coming and going at EDI.

[GLAEDI]

Originally Posted by edi_local

They still have a crew room in EDI, Is this for cityflyer crew based here? I see plenty of BA crew coming and going at EDI.

yeah it’s a Cityflyer crew base. Main line are LGW & LHR

[edi_local]

Originally Posted by Rob Royston

Then they became London Airways.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/7...-sell-off.html

I wonder, with the rise of ME3, TK, Low cost Long haul like Norwegian and the expansion of US/Canada routes from Scotland since their departure, if BA now regret scaling back regional operations and losing customers to the aforementioned services? They could have directly competed with the direct services to the US/Canada for sure from Scotland.

[Richard Taylor]

Originally Posted by edi_local

I wonder, with the rise of ME3, TK, Low cost Long haul like Norwegian and the expansion of US/Canada routes from Scotland since their departure, if BA now regret scaling back regional operations and losing customers to the aforementioned services? They could have directly competed with the direct services to the US/Canada for sure from Scotland.

Somehow, I doubt it very much.

[Skipness One Foxtrot]

They could potentially do it now with 3rd party handling and a clean sheet of paper like Level or CitiFlyer on short haul. But they only got here by ripping out the legacy cost base of old BA. In house handling, well paid staff who worked leisurely and unionsed hours. You can’t fly for £50 on that which is why it was all hived off, even Gatwick underwing was outsourced.
easyJet and Ryanair beat them at their own game.

[nighthawk117]

Originally Posted by edi_local

I wonder, with the rise of ME3, TK, Low cost Long haul like Norwegian and the expansion of US/Canada routes from Scotland since their departure, if BA now regret scaling back regional operations and losing customers to the aforementioned services? They could have directly competed with the direct services to the US/Canada for sure from Scotland.

Any BA flight from EDI would be point-to-point, whereas almost all of the long-haul flights from EDI are used to provide feed into the airlines hubs. BA could offer connections on to AA, but then why open a base in EDI, when they can just get AA to operate form their existing JFK base anyway? They have a joint venture on transatlantic flights, and can split the revenue from the route between them.

[Sk1schoolsam]

Easyjet rumour

I heard a rumour today from inside Menzies that they are loosing contacts and my be withdrawn from EDI.
Also that EasyJet we’re pulling out- but found that hard to believe?!
There was also refreshed talk of Virgin / Delta flights in S19.... but I thought that one was put down a while ago as unrealistic.
Can anyone confirm or substantiate any of these rumours...or are they just that.

[HH6702]

Rubbish

easyjet wont be pulling out of Edinburgh
they maybe changing handling agents.

the current handling agent maybe however pulling out of Edinburgh

delta/virgin well we will have to wait and see

[habs_fan]

EasyJet are Just changing from Menzies to WFS from November

[Sk1schoolsam]

Originally Posted by HH6702

Rubbish

easyjet wont be pulling out of Edinburgh
they maybe changing handling agents.

the current handling agent maybe however pulling out of Edinburgh

delta/virgin well we will have to wait and see

Thats what my intuition said also, and I have found that WFS have had recruitment days for staff for the easyJet contract. Disgruntled employee syndrome.

...not hanging much in Virgin/ Delta coming to town. I would have thought expansion at MAN or GLA where they have an existing presence would make more sense.

[Callum Johnstone]

Originally Posted by Sk1schoolsam

...not hanging much in Virgin/ Delta coming to town. I would have thought expansion at MAN or GLA where they have an existing presence would make more sense.

Virgin/Delta already has a presence at EDI too (on the JFK route). Their routes at MAN or GLA don't preclude them from adding to their existing EDI network if the demand is there. An ATL route might just be the most likely new addition for EDI from these guys.

[nighthawk117]

Originally Posted by Callum Johnstone

Virgin/Delta already has a presence at EDI too (on the JFK route). Their routes at MAN or GLA don't preclude them from adding to their existing EDI network if the demand is there. An ATL route might just be the most likely new addition for EDI from these guys.

Sir Richard was in Edinburgh last year for the announcement of the Virgin Hotel int he city. He hinted then that Virgin were looking at adding new flights from Edinburgh. Personally, i wouldn't hold my breath, but if anything does come of it, it will likely be Atlanta, or a once weekly Orlando.

[Breathe]

Originally Posted by Sk1schoolsam

Thats what my intuition said also, and I have found that WFS have had recruitment days for staff for the easyJet contract. Disgruntled employee syndrome.

...not hanging much in Virgin/ Delta coming to town. I would have thought expansion at MAN or GLA where they have an existing presence would make more sense.

Delta used to operate seasonal flights to their hub in ATL 10 years ago. Perhaps they might see an opportunity to revive this link or perhaps one of their focus cities like BOS?