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[Alwayslistening]

Originally Posted by TimmyW

Fair point.

It's a shame that some of the Flybe routes will seemingly be lost for good now. Jersey, Dublin, Paris.

Also don’t count on that either. No reason why W patterns can’t be flown. DUB probably the worst performing route but with Q400s would be better loads/yields.

[PDXCWL45]

Originally Posted by Alwayslistening

Also don’t count on that either. No reason why W patterns can’t be flown. DUB probably the worst performing route but with Q400s would be better loads/yields.

Or they could do something similar as to Cardiff and base/overnight an aircraft there to operate Dublin and other routes.

[TimmyW]

Will be interesting to see how it pans out.

[egcntristar]

Below are Wizz routes from November when frequencies drop to their lowest. There are also extra flights over Christmas. In total for winter there are 35 weekly flights, whereas summer 2019 had 34 weekly flights.

BUD 2 X weekly
DEB 2 X weekly
RIX 2 X weekly
VNO 2 X weekly
KIV 2 X weekly (new route)
GDN 4 X weekly
KTW 4 X weekly
KRK 2 X weekly
POZ 3 X weekly
WAW 2 X weekly
WRO 2 X weekly
OTP 4 X weekly
CLJ 2 X weekly
TSR 2 X weekly

[Airbanda]

Originally Posted by TimmyW

They aren't keeping the other routes, it is there in black and white if you bother to look.
Why the hell would they add LCY?

LCY makes no sense at all given rail's timings/frequency from Doncaster, Sheffield, Wakefield or several other LNER/East Midlands/Hull Trains calling points in the DSA catchment.

[Alwayslistening]

Originally Posted by Airbanda

LCY makes no sense at all given rail's timings/frequency from Doncaster, Sheffield, Wakefield or several other LNER/East Midlands/Hull Trains calling points in the DSA catchment.

Totally agree on this one, only London airport that makes sense is LHR. I used to travel to London frequently, trains from both Sheffield and Doncaster throughout the day and some decent prices if you weren’t too set on a time.

Flights from DSA only make sense if you are connecting long haul - virgin for example....

[Alwayslistening]

Originally Posted by egcntristar

Below are Wizz routes from November when frequencies drop to their lowest. There are also extra flights over Christmas. In total for winter there are 35 weekly flights, whereas summer 2019 had 34 weekly flights.

BUD 2 X weekly
DEB 2 X weekly
RIX 2 X weekly
VNO 2 X weekly
KIV 2 X weekly (new route)
GDN 4 X weekly
KTW 4 X weekly
KRK 2 X weekly
POZ 3 X weekly
WAW 2 X weekly
WRO 2 X weekly
OTP 4 X weekly
CLJ 2 X weekly
TSR 2 X weekly

Exactly this and why I believe they will base soon. The times are also interesting. In previous seasons all flights have been in evening waves. In addition to evening waves, Wizz are now operating morning and midday flights with loads still high - WAW was over booked last week. No reason why they couldn’t base three aircraft at Doncaster now, could also then add additional routes from DSA. Prague anyone???

[N707ZS]

I would of flow with Wizz to Riga recently but the evening departure totally put me off, wonder how many more people think the same. Budapest with the morning is ideal.

[Strakur]

Originally Posted by N707ZS

I would of flown with Wizz to Riga recently but the evening departure totally put me off, wonder how many more people think the same. Budapest with the morning is ideal.

The opposite is try for me from DSA. Living in Sheffield, there is no public transport for early morning flights (unlike to MAN with a 03:24 train). Therefore I only take afternoon/evening flights from DSA.

[N707ZS]

Originally Posted by Strakur

The opposite is try for me from DSA. Living in Sheffield, there is no public transport for early morning flights (unlike to MAN with a 03:24 train). Therefore I only take afternoon/evening flights from DSA.

The big problem for me is what do you do when you land at your destination at say 01.30am, you cannot go to your hotel and there's possibly no transport.

[MDS]

Originally Posted by N707ZS

The big problem for me is what do you do when you land at your destination at say 01.30am, you cannot go to your hotel and there's possibly no transport.

Wizz flights aren't primarily designed for tourism.

They're typically used by immigrant workers visiting friends and relatives. Lincolnshire/Yorkshire are excellent catchments for this type of traffic, and besides travelling to Luton face little competition.

[EGPO]

Originally Posted by MDS

Wizz flights aren't primarily designed for tourism.

They're typically used by immigrant workers visiting friends and relatives. Lincolnshire/Yorkshire are excellent catchments for this type of traffic, and besides travelling to Luton face little competition.

Respectfully, recently DSA themselves have begun to market routes like Timisoara, as ' a tourist destination'.
Also we are still stuck in the mindset that everyone on a Wizz flight is a migrant. But ironically I was chatting to a local Polish friend , who thinks ( naturally) Wizz is a great product, bit he said that there are often tourists on the flights as , like any country Poland ( as an example) has a lot of stunning places .

Also keeping in mind , they are adding routes , so this becursed Brexit drama , seems not to be affecting their offerings, which are up by one flight from the summer , this coming winter .
Also with better timings , and I'm sure while not common , you could in theory pickup a dirt cheap flight to Warsaw then take advantage of connections to , ' city break or tourist destinations' not offered unless you travel to London or Dublin .

Ok granted such pax could be counted on one hand , but Wizz would not be introducing routes like Moldova , which I'm not certain there is a huge Moldovan local population.
So it is clearly a Tourist choice as per the DSA announcement, repleat with colourful photos of stunning city scenes !.

[MDS]

Originally Posted by EGPO

Respectfully, recently DSA themselves have begun to market routes like Timisoara, as ' a tourist destination'.
Also we are still stuck in the mindset that everyone on a Wizz flight is a migrant. But ironically I was chatting to a local Polish friend , who thinks ( naturally) Wizz is a great product, bit he said that there are often tourists on the flights as , like any country Poland ( as an example) has a lot of stunning places .

Also keeping in mind , they are adding routes , so this becursed Brexit drama , seems not to be affecting their offerings, which are up by one flight from the summer , this coming winter .
Also with better timings , and I'm sure while not common , you could in theory pickup a dirt cheap flight to Warsaw then take advantage of connections to , ' city break or tourist destinations' not offered unless you travel to London or Dublin .

Ok granted such pax could be counted on one hand , but Wizz would not be introducing routes like Moldova , which I'm not certain there is a huge Moldovan local population.
So it is clearly a Tourist choice as per the DSA announcement, repleat with colourful photos of stunning city scenes !.

My comment definitely wasn't meant in a derogatory sense, rather just an analysis of their primary target market for business purposes, as reflected by their less suitable timings into certain destinations (eg. getting picked up by a relative on the other side late at night)

Destinations in Poland such as Krakow are definitely becoming city break destinations (as per Jet2 from LBA) and it would be nice to see less explored destinations become more attractive to the local tourist market as they broaden their horizons. More people overall = more flights, which is the best outcome after all.

KRK, WAW, BUD, and even KIV are great opportunities with well known cities in hopefully stimulating city break holidays from DSA.

[AirportPlanner1]

Originally Posted by MDS

Destinations in Poland such as Krakow are definitely becoming city break destinations (as per Jet2 from LBA)

Becoming? Krakow (and Budapest, Prague) have been city break destinations for best part of a quarter of a century. Even the likes of Gdansk following in their trail have been recognised some time! When I flew to/from Krakow shortly after EU entry probably 80% or more of pax were British. I have admittedly also seen other flights board (eg Szczecin) where I don’t think a single person was British.

[egcntristar]

Wizz have started to release Summer 2020 flights, so far its looking static which is good news in view of the nations impending Euro doom..

GDN 5 x weekly
KTW 5 x weekly
KRK 3 x weekly
POZ 3 x weekly
WAW 4 x weekly
WRO 2 x weekly

[Alwayslistening]

Originally Posted by egcntristar

Wizz have started to release Summer 2020 flights, so far its looking static which is good news in view of the nations impending Euro doom..

GDN 5 x weekly
KTW 5 x weekly
KRK 3 x weekly
POZ 3 x weekly
WAW 4 x weekly
WRO 2 x weekly

Hmmm. Well I would hope this isn’t the full schedule as that’s quite a dramatic decrease from the coming winter let alone this summer!!!!!

Unless that is the schedule for the Hungarian fleet and there are more announcements pending.. Wizz UK fleet...

[egcntristar]

Originally Posted by egcntristar

Wizz have started to release Summer 2020 flights, so far its looking static which is good news in view of the nations impending Euro doom..

GDN 5 x weekly
KTW 5 x weekly
KRK 3 x weekly
POZ 3 x weekly
WAW 4 x weekly
WRO 2 x weekly

Further uploaded flights, which means a nice little increase in footfall year on year.

BUD 2 x weekly
DEB 2 x weekly
RIX 3 x weekly
VNO 3 x weekly
KIV 2 x weekly
OTP 5 x weekly
CLJ 3 x weekly
TSR 2 x weekly

[Alwayslistening]

Originally Posted by egcntristar

Further uploaded flights, which means a nice little increase in footfall year on year.

BUD 2 x weekly
DEB 2 x weekly
RIX 3 x weekly
VNO 3 x weekly
KIV 2 x weekly
OTP 5 x weekly
CLJ 3 x weekly
TSR 2 x weekly

Thats good to see at least!!!! Still nothing on any sort of replacement on the Flybe routes - I did hear they may be back with jets next summer but I doubt it.

Certainly seems to be a gap for someone to exploit tho..

[stevelincoln]

So thats it for Flybe at Doncaster Sheffield then. I have seen on social media that they are now withdrawing all routes from DSF on Saturday 26th October. I will be sad to see them go

[LBIA]

Posted elsewhere that Flybe have confirmed today that it's withdrawing all services from DSA as of October 26th, 2019.
This includes the planned winter flights to Amsterdam & Belfast City which have being on sale since the base closure announcement earlier this summer.
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