Doncaster Sheffield-2

[PDXCWL45]

Originally Posted by G-FORZ

My post was in repose to an earlier post suggesting Ryanair and EasyJet would be bad for DSA. The point I was attempting to make was that DSA needs as many brands as possible to be considered a contender for consumer choice. All the best airports have multiple carriers offering similar if not the same routes, but the competition stimulates growth. How are the brands attracted - firstly by offering exactly the same concessions to them as the incumbents. From the outside it appears rightly or wrongly TUI and BE are being protected from competition by Peel in exchange for their commitment to the airport, but this in turn is stifling and prospective growth with new/old carriers. A KLM 2 daily AMS (like at DTV!!! ) would wipe the floor with BE - what’s more Peel know Ryanair can co exist with Easy from their experiences at LPL.

That's assuming said carriers are actually interested in DSA or may feel ir would drain away passengers from there other airports. And KLM would be targeting different types of passengers to Flybe

[egcntristar]

Flybe now showing flights up to mid June 2019 for the following.

Amsterdam - Daily
Alicante - 3xweekly
Belfast City - 6xweekly
Dublin - Daily
Jersey - Daily
Paris (CDG) - 2xweekly
Faro - 2xweekly
Malaga - 2xweekly
Newquay - 3xweekly
Palma not showing as yet however was added later previously.

A further phase with new schedule enhancements is expected to be announced in the coming weeks. I wonder due to new deliveries, if there will be a shared aircraft with Cardiff to gain a little expansion. Against what the naysayers expected

[PDXCWL45]

Originally Posted by egcntristar

Flybe now showing flights up to mid June 2019 for the following.

Amsterdam - Daily
Alicante - 3xweekly
Belfast City - 6xweekly
Dublin - Daily
Jersey - Daily
Paris (CDG) - 2xweekly
Faro - 2xweekly
Malaga - 2xweekly
Newquay - 3xweekly
Palma not showing as yet however was added later previously.

A further phase with new schedule enhancements is expected to be announced in the coming weeks. I wonder due to new deliveries, if there will be a shared aircraft with Cardiff to gain a little expansion. Against what the naysayers expected

With Cardiff they mentioned a 4th aircraft and mentioned Spain if they do then PMI on a W pattern could be possible and i wonder if they could be tempted to do something similar like they operate with Exeter and Norwich? So CWL-PMI-DSA-CWL then CWL-DSA-PMI-CWL. It would give both airports a new domestic route and provide revenue on what would normally be empty sectors .

[G-FORZ]

New Route

According to facebook page new route announcement tomorrow, any gossip?

Would love to think new carrier but "route" would suggest BE winter route re introduction

[PDXCWL45]

Originally Posted by G-FORZ

According to facebook page new route announcement tomorrow, any gossip?

Would love to think new carrier but "route" would suggest BE winter route re introduction

Or TUI launching Cancun? They did lauch Orlando and Cancun is popular.

[toledoashley]

Looks like its Wizz - to Budapest.

[egcntristar]

Originally Posted by toledoashley

Looks like its Wizz - to Budapest.

3 x weekly MWF starting 29 Oct, more convenient departure times than other Wizz flights.

[egcntristar]

The Childrens Air Ambulance have plans for a new hangar to be built later the year to be situated alongside Hangar 3.

There are also plans for a larger hangar opposite Hangar 3, on the other side of the freight apron, to be large enough to hold two B 767s...

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[Barnstable]

Loads of Ryanair planes taking off and landing this week apparently. Presume it's pilot training.

[Cazza_fly]

Originally Posted by Barnstable

Loads of Ryanair planes taking off and landing this week apparently. Presume it's pilot training.

I wouldn't say "loads of Ryanair planes"... There's been a singular 737-700 (EI-SEV) doing base training circuits. Admittedly for long hours on most days for the past few weeks. Despite it being summer, it looks like the perfect airport for it, plenty of space and clearance.

[egcntristar]

Further to my post 199, hangar 3a planning application has now been approved by the council for the Childrens Air Ambulance. Work to start soon.

[EGPO]

Along with an extension to the Terminal and 3 gate bridges .

[N707ZS]

Have they stated where the funding is coming from for the terminal and gate bridges?

[canberra97]

Regarding these so called proposed 3 gate bridges, are we referring to Air Bridges?

[Cazza_fly]

Originally Posted by canberra97

Regarding these so called proposed 3 gate bridges, are we referring to Air Bridges?

Yes. The request states for a mixture. So air bridges and step bridges, the latter being what are already used. They will certainly need them in use for next summer as well as to show proof that they are able to accommodate any further expansion in the near future - either from current airlines or new operators. I believe they currently have 3 step-bridge gates and one ground level gate area. So that's only 4 boarding gates with a potential of at least 5 being needed for first wave morning departures next summer alone. I don't believe Swissport have buses at DSA which would be the only alternate option. Boarding from one gate area and then busing passengers onto remote stands?

[Barnstable]

July and August PAX showing not insignificant falls compared to last year. I suspect Wizz loads may be down.

[MDS]

Originally Posted by Barnstable

July and August PAX showing not insignificant falls compared to last year. I suspect Wizz loads may be down.

I suspect this is due to a reduction in BE's capacity to 2x E175 (88 pax) compared to the E195 previous years (118 pax).

Interesting as all AGP-DSA-AGP sectors I've been on between June-September this year were at 100% capacity. I can't comment on FAO/ALC/PMI.

[EGPO]

Originally Posted by Cazza_fly

Yes. The request states for a mixture. So air bridges and step bridges, the latter being what are already used. They will certainly need them in use for next summer as well as to show proof that they are able to accommodate any further expansion in the near future - either from current airlines or new operators. I believe they currently have 3 step-bridge gates and one ground level gate area. So that's only 4 boarding gates with a potential of at least 5 being needed for first wave morning departures next summer alone. I don't believe Swissport have buses at DSA which would be the only alternate option. Boarding from one gate area and then busing passengers onto remote stands?

Just to clarify these are NOT airbridges, they are the same ' Gate Bridges ' albiet now wheelchair and disabled friendly with the inclusion of lifts . Im unsure if in future they can be converted to an airbridge .
The mind boggles who's idea it was to not have an airbridge on the alocated ' large aircraft stand '

[SWBKCB]

The mind boggles who's idea it was to not have an airbridge on the allocated ' large aircraft stand '

Whoever was paying for it? How many large (pax!) aircraft does DSA get?

[Cazza_fly]

Originally Posted by MDS

I suspect this is due to a reduction in BE's capacity to 2x E175 (88 pax) compared to the E195 previous years (118 pax).

Interesting as all AGP-DSA-AGP sectors I've been on between June-September this year were at 100% capacity. I can't comment on FAO/ALC/PMI.

This of course has had an impact, however the largest decrease has come from Wizzair. This is with the loss of 2x weekly SOF, the closure of LUZ and KSC bases and a return to the A320 vs A321 on the GDN route. On top of this, the weekly TCX A321 route to PMI didn't operate this year either. The decrease was mitigated slightly by additional TUI holiday flights and new destinations. Although i do think many of these flights could have seen higher load factors and were probably impacted slightly on this by the good weather here in the UK.

Although lots can change, next summers schedule could possibly be the busiest ever for DSA. Wizzair has new routes to BUD and DEB as well increased frequencies on many existing routes, namely KTW which is going daily for most part of this period at the moment. TUI with a 3rd based 737 aircraft and a weekly 787 flight to SFB. Then there's Flybe who will release their "finalised" summer 19 schedule in the next few weeks. There's definitely a few gaps im the schedule to fill with a new route or additional frequencies on an existing route(s) if they see fit.