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Old 5th Jun 2020, 19:14
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Good news on the cargo front.

Wish same could be said on the passenger side.

Two wizz routes and one TUI route cut today.

Unfortunately can't see any positives on that side of things for the time being.
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Old 5th Jun 2020, 19:51
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Originally Posted by TimmyW
Good news on the cargo front.

Wish same could be said on the passenger side.

Two wizz routes and one TUI route cut today.

Unfortunately can't see any positives on that side of things for the time being.

Also, seems to be no indication of when will be resuming flights to Doncaster, despite them resuming at other UK airports.
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Old 5th Jun 2020, 20:00
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From Wizz air web site shows Riga 17/21/24/28 June, Vilnius starting 17/6, Gdansk 15/6, All the others start in June, check website for dates.
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Originally Posted by ericlday
From Wizz air web site shows Riga 17/21/24/28 June, Vilnius starting 17/6, Gdansk 15/6, All the others start in June, check website for dates.
​​​​​They've been on sale for last couple of weeks earlier than that, then the flights don't actually operate
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Unfortunately can't see any positives on that side of things for the time being.
Really - there's a shock...

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Old 5th Jun 2020, 20:22
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
Really - there's a shock...

Do you?


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Originally Posted by TimmyW
Do you?​​​​​
Far too early to tell - but if there is a negative to be found, you'll find it.
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
Far too early to tell - but if there is a negative to be found, you'll find it.
Didn't i say it was positive response regarding cargo?

Not sure how else you can view the loss of routes as anything but negative. Its not like the airport has a large network of routes to start with.
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Originally Posted by TimmyW
Good news on the cargo front.

Wish same could be said on the passenger side.

Two wizz routes and one TUI route cut today.

Unfortunately can't see any positives on that side of things for the time being.
What was the TUI route cut?
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Old 6th Jun 2020, 10:45
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Hurghada.

A lot of reductions on rotations for next summer compared to the expansion that was announced a few months ago.
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Old 6th Jun 2020, 10:51
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Originally Posted by TimmyW
Hurghada.

A lot of reductions on rotations for next summer compared to the expansion that was announced a few months ago.
Come on, we haven't had this summer yet, and if you look elsewhere you will see that TUI are going through a major retrenchment at the moment, globally. DSA won't be the only place effected, may not be the worst case effected.
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Come on, we haven't had this summer yet, and if you look elsewhere you will see that TUI are going through a major retrenchment at the moment, globally. DSA won't be the only place effected, may not be the worst case effected.

I understand that, however DSA has only two operators, one of which reliant on migrant workers, so the demand there is going to be reduced.

Most other airports have the luxury of a lot larger route network and more operators.
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Look at the loss of FlyBe. Eastern have picked up routes at other airports but have avoided Doncaster.

When Doncaster loses routes, they aren't replaced.

Far better for them to focus on the cargo side for the foreseeable. I don't see how the passenger side can be sustained.
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I understand that, however DSA has only two operators, one of which reliant on migrant workers, so the demand there is going to be reduced.

Most other airports have the luxury of a lot larger route network and more operators.
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Look at the loss of FlyBe. Eastern have picked up routes at other airports but have avoided Doncaster.

When Doncaster loses routes, they aren't replaced.

Far better for them to focus on the cargo side for the foreseeable. I don't see how the passenger side can be sustained.
You may well be right about DSA's long term future, and in that they may be little different to EMA which I feel may struggle with it's heavily leisure orientated offering passengerwise. DSA appears to handle cargo very efficiently, and has gained some interesting operations. It could well become akin to Maastricht, where EMA is more akin to Liege in terms of it's cargo market. I imagine that post Brexit, when trucking stuff in from EU airports will be made a deal more complicated, DSA might hope to pick up the likes of Emirates or Qatar cargo, or even Jordanian or Egyptair who both tend to serve the fruit and veg markets through Oostende.
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Originally Posted by TimmyW
I understand that, however DSA has only two operators, one of which reliant on migrant workers, so the demand there is going to be reduced.

Most other airports have the luxury of a lot larger route network and more operators.
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Look at the loss of FlyBe. Eastern have picked up routes at other airports but have avoided Doncaster.

When Doncaster loses routes, they aren't replaced.

Far better for them to focus on the cargo side for the foreseeable. I don't see how the passenger side can be sustained.
You never do.
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Old 6th Jun 2020, 11:27
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Originally Posted by davidjpowell
You never do.

Just saying it how it is. You can't deny that DSA has a poor record attracting operators and retaining routes.

Who's going to pick up the routes as Wizz and TUI scale back? Why haven't the FlyBe routes been picked up like some have at other airports?
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Why haven't the FlyBe routes been picked up like some have at other airports?
Eastern, Blue Island, Loganair have picked up routes from existing bases. Apart from Eastern at SOU (which is re-opening of a base at an airport they already operated from) can't think of any others?
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I have to agree. Every airport is going to struggle to get back anywhere near what it used to handle and DSA will have an uphill fight on its hands. Will the numbers from Eastern Europe still be there in a few years time to support Wizzair, who knows? For DSA the cargo side of things looks like something to build on.
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Old 6th Jun 2020, 12:57
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The Eastern European workers in Doncaster having been going home in droves since Brexit.
Unless Wizz diversifies its offering to more leisure orientated routes, I can't see them offering the same frequencies to Eastern Europe. The demand simply won't be there.

I think we can forget routes like Amsterdam, Dublin, Belfast etc ever coming back. There's no one who will realistically come in and operate them.
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Old 14th Jul 2020, 16:14
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BBC reporting an Astral 747 left the black bit and is now on the grass at 1455 this afternoon, 14 Jul. 1 diversion to EGNM
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Notam......Q) EGTT/QMRLC/IV/NBO/A/000/999/5329N00100W005
B) FROM: 20/07/14 16:35C) TO: 20/07/15 05:00E) AERODROME CLOSED DUE AIRCRAFT OBSTRUCTION ON RUNWAY
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