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Old 14th Mar 2020, 11:56
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Originally Posted by TimmyW View Post
Not sure DSA will survive the next few months as flights are cancelled.
Self isolation is the key troll. DSA will be fine European workers will continue to use the Wizz flights. You prophesised failure after Flybe went and the airport has been fine, same after the max debacle with the same outcome again.
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Old 14th Mar 2020, 12:04
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Originally Posted by egcntristar View Post
Self isolation is the key troll. DSA will be fine European workers will continue to use the Wizz flights. You prophesised failure after Flybe went and the airport has been fine, same after the max debacle with the same outcome again.
You clearly can't see the implications.

Even before today's flight groundings Wizz have drastically reduced their original schedule at DSA. As the situation worsens and more flights are cancelled, who's going to keep the airport running? And how long until consumer confidence returns?

Airports with a large route network will survive, those like DSA with only a few flights per day on a good day will struggle to come back from this.
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Old 14th Mar 2020, 12:19
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At the very worst case, many of the staff at DSA can be laid off and the doors closed while coronavirus runs its course.
Much as I hate to say it, the value of an airport lies in its built infrastructure rather than the employees. Even if Peel go bankrupt, there will be a time in maybe 2022 when somebody decides to buy the airport from the insolvency practitioner. This is not Ciudad Real - there is a real and sizeable population nearby that want to fly.

The whole coronavirus thing will eventually pass - even if it means waiting 18 months for a vaccine. The 1918 flu epidemic passed and the world economy recovered
The collection of terminal, runway, equipment and road connection is simply too valuable for it to be abandoned forever
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Old 14th Mar 2020, 12:24
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Timmy you clearly don't see the overall UK industry long term picture.

All airports are in the same boat. The bigger they are the harder they will fall especially short term those that rely on Jet2 med flights after today's news. Those that relied on Flybe will take a double hit. I don't see you doomongering on any other thread.
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Old 14th Mar 2020, 12:31
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Originally Posted by egcntristar View Post
Timmy you clearly don't see the overall UK industry long term picture.

All airports are in the same boat. The bigger they are the harder they will fall especially short term those that rely on Jet2 med flights after today's news. Those that relied on Flybe will take a double hit. I don't see you doomongering on any other thread.

The government will step in to help larger airports. Wizz had already significantly cut back their schedule at DSA before today's news.

Once airlines regroup, they will focus on larger hubs and airports, not small regionals.
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Old 14th Mar 2020, 12:35
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Originally Posted by egcntristar View Post
Timmy you clearly don't see the overall UK industry long term picture.

All airports are in the same boat. The bigger they are the harder they will fall especially short term those that rely on Jet2 med flights after today's news. Those that relied on Flybe will take a double hit. I don't see you doomongering on any other thread.

The government will step in to help larger airports. Wizz had already significantly cut back their schedule at DSA before today's news.

Once airlines regroup, they will focus on larger hubs and airports, not small regionals.

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Old 14th Mar 2020, 12:39
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There's a commonly held misconception on these forums that if you repeat something often enough it will actually come true.

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Old 14th Mar 2020, 12:42
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Originally Posted by TimmyW View Post
The government will step in to help larger airports. Wizz had already significantly cut back their schedule at DSA before today's news.

Once airlines regroup, they will focus on larger hubs and airports, not small regionals.
Ultimately, we are thankfully still waiting for one of your prophesies to be correct.

Rather than doomongering and point scoring think of all the employees of airports, airlines and all associated industries and the effects on them.
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Old 14th Mar 2020, 12:50
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Originally Posted by TimmyW View Post
The government will step in to help larger airports. Wizz had already significantly cut back their schedule at DSA before today's news.

Once airlines regroup, they will focus on larger hubs and airports, not small regionals.

not sure whatís been said before, but after Edinburgh Airport announced yesterday that they could have no passengers for 3 months and BA could go bust it seemed perfectly reasonable to suggest that there could be dark times ahead for DSA just as there is for every Airport. Who knows when the summer season will start and how many TUI planes will be based then.....
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Old 14th Mar 2020, 13:03
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Originally Posted by DanAir89 View Post
not sure whatís been said before, but after Edinburgh Airport announced yesterday that they could have no passengers for 3 months and BA could go bust it seemed perfectly reasonable to suggest that there could be dark times ahead for DSA just as there is for every Airport. Who knows when the summer season will start and how many TUI planes will be based then.....
I agree, not being negative but realistic. Itís almost certain that TUI will need to make significant reductions which will of course impact on DSA. I think even one or two based aircraft would be ambitious at the moment.
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Old 14th Mar 2020, 13:06
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I agree, not being negative but realistic. Itís almost certain that TUI will need to make significant reductions which will of course impact on DSA. I think even one or two based aircraft would be ambitious at the moment.
If they close the base, then the airport would not be viable as a commercial concern.
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Old 14th Mar 2020, 13:11
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If they close the base, then the airport would not be viable as a commercial concern.
True and the same can possibly be said for the likes of EXT/CWL/BOH/NWI.

As mentioned, even EDI (large airport who don't rely largely on any one airline) are expecting massive consequences.
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Old 14th Mar 2020, 13:34
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Originally Posted by ROC10 View Post
True and the same can possibly be said for the likes of EXT/CWL/BOH/NWI.

As mentioned, even EDI (large airport who don't rely largely on any one airline) are expecting massive consequences.
Seems to be a lot of people wanting this place to fail.

I work at the airport, and I can say after the last few days we are all expecting the worse. The management are usually very positive but even they believe this will be the final straw.

​​​​​Very sad, but I guess this is an unprecedented situation.
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Old 15th Mar 2020, 10:49
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Originally Posted by Davidiansmith View Post
Seems to be a lot of people wanting this place to fail.

I work at the airport, and I can say after the last few days we are all expecting the worse. The management are usually very positive but even they believe this will be the final straw.

​​​​​Very sad, but I guess this is an unprecedented situation.
Of course I donít want the airport to fail...

Posting about the reality of the situation doesnít mean I want it to happen.
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Old 15th Mar 2020, 14:23
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Originally Posted by Davidiansmith View Post
Seems to be a lot of people wanting this place to fail.

I work at the airport, and I can say after the last few days we are all expecting the worse. The management are usually very positive but even they believe this will be the final straw.

​​​​​Very sad, but I guess this is an unprecedented situation.
Best of luck.
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Old 15th Mar 2020, 21:13
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Cargo will still be flown, probably on passenger aircraft, simply as the freight capacity being decimated from passenger airline cancellations.
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Old 16th Mar 2020, 12:19
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so, so sorry to hear this - it's truly awful. I'm sure that unfortunately a similar situation will happen at many of our regional airports. I'm just a passenger (mainly at SOU), so for me it's just an inconvenience, for the guys involved in keeping these airports running over the last few years I'd like to say a huge 'thank you', and my thoughts are with you. Good luck to every one and let's hope for better news soon.
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Old 16th Mar 2020, 16:04
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Wizz 803 (G WUKI) Positioning in from Luton........is this to operate a flight or storage ?
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Old 16th Mar 2020, 16:11
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Originally Posted by ericlday View Post
Wizz 803 (G WUKI) Positioning in from Luton........is this to operate a flight or storage ?
Joining KK and KH for storage.
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Old 17th Mar 2020, 10:12
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Originally Posted by Davidiansmith View Post
The majority of staff have now been put on leave. We've been told to think of ourselves and find alternative employment if we can.

All of the food and drink outlets have closed, terminal is being prepared to be moth balled and a security firm coming in to look after the place for the short term.

The odd flight is still scheduled to operate, and some staff will be paid an hourly rate for the time needed to cover these flights.

Not sure what the long term plan is at this stage.
the airport has said elsewhere.

We'd like to clarify the situation re this forum post. We can confirm the Aviation industry globally is facing significant challenges and we are currently working hard on our business continuity plans with our people are at the forefront of those plans. The terminal building and runway are fully operational. As per our statement yesterday, there has been disruption to flights at DSA - as is the case at all UK Airports but none of the Airport's staff have been put on leave. Furthermore, there is no member of staff across the airport with the name of the forum contributor. Please follow our official social media channels for updates.
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