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I don't think it'll happen, Jet2 are all about their Holidays arm now, and it's not really a package holiday destination, Could you imagine an All inclusive resort at the tippy top of the rock?
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When retired shortly, I hope to visit Gibraltar far more as a holiday destination! Although it will probably not be a package, just a flight and a self-booked room.
Must admit I won't visit Gibraltar if I have to fly via Malaga or any other nearby airport due to (a) lost time (b) having to use public transport (c) a border to cross where there may be queues.
It's Gib's airport or nothing!
BTW this might be a silly question and I ought to know the answer
, who ownd, maintains and pays for Gibraltar airport? The MOD. our government as a whole or a private company (or a mix of all three)? Thanks 
Must admit I won't visit Gibraltar if I have to fly via Malaga or any other nearby airport due to (a) lost time (b) having to use public transport (c) a border to cross where there may be queues.
It's Gib's airport or nothing!
BTW this might be a silly question and I ought to know the answer
, who ownd, maintains and pays for Gibraltar airport? The MOD. our government as a whole or a private company (or a mix of all three)? Thanks
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I too can't see Jet2 being at all interested in Gibraltar, nor any of the other major operators (Thomson, Thomas Cook...). Flybe could potentially be a good match?
In the short term, all we can hope for is more Manchester flights with easyJet - there is certainly demand as most of their flights for this month are sold out or being sold at extortionate rates.
I've chosen to double the journey time and go with BA via LHR - cheaper, better product and at least I can build up tier points to work towards getting some of the perks I was accustomed too with Monarch's Vantage Club.
In terms of BA from LGW - they should look at Monarch for a reason why to not bother. They tried muscling in on Sleazy's territory (I heard in response to EZY starting MAN-GIB) with similarly timed flights from Gatwick and having flown with MON a few times, the flights were barely half full.
Plus how many more London flights does GIB need
2 or 3 a day and the North is now served by only 2-3 flights a week!
In the short term, all we can hope for is more Manchester flights with easyJet - there is certainly demand as most of their flights for this month are sold out or being sold at extortionate rates.
I've chosen to double the journey time and go with BA via LHR - cheaper, better product and at least I can build up tier points to work towards getting some of the perks I was accustomed too with Monarch's Vantage Club.
In terms of BA from LGW - they should look at Monarch for a reason why to not bother. They tried muscling in on Sleazy's territory (I heard in response to EZY starting MAN-GIB) with similarly timed flights from Gatwick and having flown with MON a few times, the flights were barely half full.
Plus how many more London flights does GIB need
2 or 3 a day and the North is now served by only 2-3 flights a week!
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Owned/maintained by the MOD and the terminal/pax side of things is HMGoG as far as I am aware.
All of Jet2's newer 737 800's are fitted with the short field package, which allows GOL to operate in and out of runways considerably shorter than GIB, so landing distance shouldn't be a problem for the 738.
Airlines also operate non-short field 738's into and out of places such as Skiathos every day, on sector lengths of up to 2 hours. They've even been known to operate direct back to the UK, loads permitting.
There will still be 737 300's around for a few more years, and who knows, Jet2 might end up with some MAX's
When you consider "Jet2CityBreaks" is one of the "Jet2/Jet2Holidays" spin offs, the fact that Gibraltar has been seeing huge growth over the last 18 months and has become a more popular place to visit, and the fact that they've lost almost half their traffic - as well as all the potential to serve the Western costas for holidaymakers... I hope Jet2 do pick up ops at GIB, because I think they could become a big player there. They've made a success of Almeria.
I just got back from Estepona yesterday, and I'd have killed for a GIB-NCL flight, rolling in from the bar at 4am to get to AGP
All of Jet2's newer 737 800's are fitted with the short field package, which allows GOL to operate in and out of runways considerably shorter than GIB, so landing distance shouldn't be a problem for the 738.
Airlines also operate non-short field 738's into and out of places such as Skiathos every day, on sector lengths of up to 2 hours. They've even been known to operate direct back to the UK, loads permitting.
There will still be 737 300's around for a few more years, and who knows, Jet2 might end up with some MAX's
When you consider "Jet2CityBreaks" is one of the "Jet2/Jet2Holidays" spin offs, the fact that Gibraltar has been seeing huge growth over the last 18 months and has become a more popular place to visit, and the fact that they've lost almost half their traffic - as well as all the potential to serve the Western costas for holidaymakers... I hope Jet2 do pick up ops at GIB, because I think they could become a big player there. They've made a success of Almeria.
I just got back from Estepona yesterday, and I'd have killed for a GIB-NCL flight, rolling in from the bar at 4am to get to AGP
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I agree, I'd have thought EasyJet from LPL would be a potential from next year as they are basing an extra aircraft there, and previously served the route from there with load factors of between 85 and 91%. No idea why it was pulled with those figures.
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I would not be to hasty about the BA product Lee J. A friend of mine flew last week from GiB and said the flight was 'absolute 
'. Only one trolley for the whole aircraft, took 90 minutes to get two thirds down the cabin and having to pay £1.10p for a packet of crisps. Return flight not much better and terrible seat pitch, so beware.As regards Liverpool it is yield dear boy not load factor.
'. Only one trolley for the whole aircraft, took 90 minutes to get two thirds down the cabin and having to pay £1.10p for a packet of crisps. Return flight not much better and terrible seat pitch, so beware.As regards Liverpool it is yield dear boy not load factor.
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I've done the route with BA a few times and can vouch that since the introduction of the M&S menu, it can be a slow process for the trollies. Usually 3 of the 4 crew work economy so I think they're doing the best they can but it seems their payment taking is not up to speed. Top tip is to order a hot item when they take pre-orders and at the same time they'll usually take the rest of your order so you don't have to wait for the trolley to reach you.
I was on a easyJet flight a month or so ago and by row 4 they'd run out of hot food and I do like their ham & cheese melt
In terms of Liverpool flights with EJ, been and done about 4 years ago so would be surprised to see them return although with less competition down the road in MAN, maybe its a good time to try?
I was on a easyJet flight a month or so ago and by row 4 they'd run out of hot food and I do like their ham & cheese melt
In terms of Liverpool flights with EJ, been and done about 4 years ago so would be surprised to see them return although with less competition down the road in MAN, maybe its a good time to try?
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https://worldairlinenews.com/2017/11...and-gibraltar/
Only from Gatwick and Bristol though, though heard EasyJet will be basing more at MAN Next year so hopefully some expansion from there too.
Only from Gatwick and Bristol though, though heard EasyJet will be basing more at MAN Next year so hopefully some expansion from there too.
You could always pre order your ham and cheese melt (or any other meal deal) and save yourself £1 in the process. https://preorders.easyjet.com/
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Charter flights to be Trialled from Belfast International, Humberside, Exeter, Bournemouth, Durham Tees Valley and East Midlands. Not sure who the Operator will be yet.
https://www.euroweeklynews.com/3.0.1...lled-next-july
https://www.euroweeklynews.com/3.0.1...lled-next-july
rumour is Titan i was told on Hurn forum
were they on the cards?
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Gibraltar handled 571,184 passengers in 2017, a 4.2% Increase compared to last year, however significant drops in passengers from October onwards for Obvious reasons. Hopefully big improvements on this in 2018.
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For now, the 737 300's and 757's would do well out of GIB, so short/medium term there shouldn't be any problems.
Their new 737 800's have the Boeing Short Field Package included. "Basic" 737 800's and 737 900ER's (which have the SFP as standard) operate into shorter and less developed runways worldwide. Look at European operators into the Greek islands, as well as Indonesian and Brasilian operators, to name a few.
Payload restrictions might be necessary on some days, but I wouldn't have thought it would be too much of a problem to overcome.
Who knows, Jet2 might order some MAX8's, cseries or Airbii... Or maybe they'll try and get the A330's into GIB?
Their new 737 800's have the Boeing Short Field Package included. "Basic" 737 800's and 737 900ER's (which have the SFP as standard) operate into shorter and less developed runways worldwide. Look at European operators into the Greek islands, as well as Indonesian and Brasilian operators, to name a few.
Payload restrictions might be necessary on some days, but I wouldn't have thought it would be too much of a problem to overcome.
Who knows, Jet2 might order some MAX8's, cseries or Airbii... Or maybe they'll try and get the A330's into GIB?