Loganair-2

[sinbad73]

Originally Posted by kirkbymoorside

Or perhaps need for a G- aircraft operating on Loganair AOC as more appropriate as Secretary of State for Transport (Chris Grayling) apparently a passenger on the inaugural Southend flight?

I don't think that halfwit would know whether it is New York or New Year! Don't forget, this was the man who awarded a contract to a ferry company with no ferries!!

[BAladdy]

Does anyone know if the Nyx aircraft is operated by Nyx flight and cabin crew?.

[fjencl]

NYX flight deck and a loganair cabin crew

[Scottie Dog]

According to the CARLISLE thread the cabin crew are Newcastle based Loganair.

[NorthEasterner]

Yes crew are NCL based for the time being.

[Ken Scott]

I believe Loganair were planning on opening a base in Carlisle but this was shelved/ delayed due to the late opening of the airport. Anyone know of any plans or timescale to do so in the future?

[scodaman]

Loganair had serious problems yesterday 11-07-2019 due to a failure with IT systems with online/offlline checking closed for many hours which caused serious delays across their network. Was all over Twitter but thankfully it did not make mainstream news.

[joshua33]

I'm currently flying Aberdeen - Norwich a lot with my job. The flights are marketed/sold by flybe, but "operated by Eastern Airways". My last 3 round trips, all services have been operated by Loganair (Embraer 135 or 145), causing great confusion amongst passengers. Check in at flybe desk, boarding pass says operated by Eastern Airways, actual plane is Loganair.

Anyone know what arrangement is going on??

[CandyBender]

I wonder if the cabin crew are "dual based".....Jet 2 used to dual base at BLK/MAN and the distance between NCL & CAX is pretty much the same.

[SWBKCB]

Check in at flybe desk, boarding pass says operated by Eastern Airways, actual plane is Loganair.

Yes - it's an Eastern Airways flight, operating as a franchisee of Flybe and using an aircraft leased from Loganair.

[joshua33]

Originally Posted by SWBKCB

Yes - it's an Eastern Airways flight, operating as a franchisee of Flybe and using an aircraft leased from Loganair.

Funny how Loganair are starting their own route to Norwich in September, citing poor reliability/punctuality from Eastern Airways. And now they're covering for Eastern Airways before their own flights commence haha.

[Albert Hall]

This aspect has already been discussed at length further up the thread in posts 545-552.

[BAladdy]

London City want LM to switch there current DND flights back to there airport.

https://www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/f...d-from-dundee/

[pamann]

their airport.

They’ll lose the EK connection at STN.

Apart from the shorter distance to some parts of London, what are the benefits of moving the route back to City?

I would have thought there would be more of a chance of the route shifting to SEN over City tbh.

[AirportPlanner1]

I was looking at the CAA stats and they might give Loganair some confidence about moving DND to SEN...

The Aberdeen route from LCY carried 3,263 pax in May 2018. This year Loganair’s new SEN service carried 2,411 after starting on May 12th so on average load that equates to 3,568 across whole month. That is the equivalent of taking all LCY’s pax AND finding themselves a few more. Of course it’s early days, but you’d naturally expect what is effectively a replacement route to what is perceived a distant airport to attract less people in its first month, not more.

[ajamieson]

Presumably it's more about attracting the right people rather than the highest number. LCY more appealing to those seeking inward investment and connectivity to London. If anyone in Dundee wants EK they can just go down the road to EDI.

[AirportPlanner1]

Originally Posted by ajamieson

Presumably it's more about attracting the right people rather than the highest number. LCY more appealing to those seeking inward investment and connectivity to London. If anyone in Dundee wants EK they can just go down the road to EDI.

Not necessarily, the outer London airports are generally better for access to general industry. STN has no benefit over SEN for getting into central London, though STN serves the Cambridge corridor which is one massive advantage over SEN considering Dundee area also has some academic institutions.

[goldeneye]

I don’t think there are many passengers actually connect onto EK at STN from DND as the connection is not that great. Makes more sense to go over to EDI and get a one stop change.

The main reason for the EK tie up is to connect the islands into GLA & EDI and on to DXB and beyond.

Moving the DND service to SEN will prob mean cheaper landing fees than STN, and I’m sure Stobart will have some sort of deal in place for LM already based on ABZ, GLA and now CAX.

I think more business travel could come back if they moved to LCY again and increased to 3 x Daily (add a midday option to London).

LM re-adding a service to BHD again could be a good use of assets given the Saab 340 sits in Dundee all day parked up.

[Billyboeing]

GLA to DUS reducing from 6 to 3 per week (Sun, Mon and FRI) mid-Dec up to end MAR.

[CabinCrewe]

Originally Posted by Billyboeing

GLA to DUS reducing from 6 to 3 per week (Sun, Mon and FRI) mid-Dec up to end MAR.

Shrewd move when they analysed the forward bookings. The demographic appears to be completely different to the EW service before it, with homespun outbound leisure rather than business or significant inbound which is perfect for this winter frequency. In the absence of code share and connections at this stage, it was never going to be a mid winter connections bonanza.
The review of the fleet ops for the winter will have impacted on this early decision also.
Will need time to grow and find its place in a particular market. They can no doubt look into codeshares etc at a later date if economically viable and in their best interest.