Loganair-2

[OntimeexceptACARS]

Understand G-LGNO and LGNT have gone to Orebro - maint or lease return given the recent EMB135/145 acquisitions?

[mullac30]

Originally Posted by OntimeexceptACARS

Understand G-LGNO and LGNT have gone to Orebro - maint or lease return given the recent EMB135/145 acquisitions?

According to Jethros, they are WFU, which makes sense seeing that both the D328s and S2000s are meant to be gone before the year is out. This surely means that it can't be long until the first ATRs start showing up at LM to operate the northern isles routes that the EMBs are incompatible with .

[VickersVicount]

...why? they have lots more S340's that can continue to operate the other routes. Cant see ATRs appearing in neartime.

[rhutch28]

Are the ERJ-145 able to operate into London City Airport, is so might we see one replace the Saab 2000 on the BA Cityflyer Isle of Man flights

[BA318]

Nope. The E135 can but the E145 can’t do LCY.

[mullac30]

Originally Posted by VickersVicount

...why? they have lots more S340's that can continue to operate the other routes. Cant see ATRs appearing in neartime.

Because LM will probably want a 50 seater to operate the Northern Isles routes.

[Rob Royston]

Originally Posted by mullac30

Because LM will probably want a 50 seater to operate the Northern Isles routes.

And any oil charter work that comes along. They had planned on 20 ATR42's and a few ERJ's before BM's demise. The five Saab 2000's are going this year plus the Dorniers, and the Saab 340's will be getting phased out soon, so I suppose they will be doing a bit of number crunching to come up with the new requirement.

[Rob Royston]

I see G-RJXA moving over from Bristol to Norwich, she's to get the "tartan paint" for 10th Apr and get registered as G-SAJL. I haven't seen XM coming back yet, she will be G-SAJO according to Jethro's fleet list.

[SealinkBF]

Not sure what to make of this! Morale clearly low at HIAL.

A plane carrying 33 passengers took off from a Scottish island despite duty air traffic control being closed.

https://www.shetnews.co.uk/2019/04/0...ganair-flight/

[scodaman]

G-RJXB still sitting at LDY.

[southside bobby]

Re-registered G-SAJO in full LOG livery appeared for the first time at STN yesterday on the LDY.

[Fly757X]

Originally Posted by scodaman

G-RJXB still sitting at LDY.

XA was transferred on the same date as XB and XA went to NWI from BRS about a week ago so XB could well be next. In other news XG has been transferred and XH is now in Alverca. (Maybe to get the wipers removed?)

[BAladdy]

LM are adding flights from EMA to BRU and INV from 2nd September.

Brussels

LM671 EMA 06:50 BRU 09:05 ER4 x567
LM675 EMA 16:10 BRU 18:20 ER4 x6

LM672 BRU 09:45 EMA 09:55 ER4 x567
LM676 BRU 19:00 EMA 19:10 ER4 x6

Inverness

LM557 EMA 12:00 INV 13:25 ER4 x6

LM558 INV 14:00 EMA 15:25 ER4 x6

[shamrock7seal]

Is anyone else concerned about Loganairs rate of expansion? I mean i'm all for growth but I just don't want it to come at the expense of the airlines very survival. I can think of much better routes than EMA-INV to get onto. Why no LHR to UK/Scottish domestics? Why is Flybe being given preferential treatment with LHR???

[ATNotts]

Originally Posted by shamrock7seal

Is anyone else concerned about Loganairs rate of expansion? I mean i'm all for growth but I just don't want it to come at the expense of the airlines very survival. I can think of much better routes than EMA-INV to get onto. Why no LHR to UK/Scottish domestics? Why is Flybe being given preferential treatment with LHR???

EMA-INV is a very strange one. It almost smacks of flying a route for the sake of giving the aircraft something to do, and if that is the case I'd have thought that ABZ might have been a better option, or perhaps ORK, or even giving FlyBe some competition on JER. I suppose some financial incentives might have come from EMA or INV; or indeed both.

[fjencl]

I seem to remember Ryanair operating the inverness to East Midlands route years ago ?

[Fly757X]

Originally Posted by ATNotts

EMA-INV is a very strange one. It almost smacks of flying a route for the sake of giving the aircraft something to do, and if that is the case I'd have thought that ABZ might have been a better option, or perhaps ORK, or even giving FlyBe some competition on JER. I suppose some financial incentives might have come from EMA or INV; or indeed both.

Jonathan Hinkles has also mentioned LDY-EMA in the future and suggested skinny routes such as a once weekly JER from LDY could be on the cards.

[VickersVicount]

i too have slight concern about picking up routes that caused BMI to fail. However EMA INV might just be a useful positioning or ferry route which coincidentally carries passengers. Any more expansion into weird thin routes and I might be concerned.
Still surprised no competition on GLA-LHR which outwith offpeak is full constantly. Some of the BE EDI-LHRs run half empty from personal experience

[SWBKCB]

i too have slight concern about picking up routes that caused BMI to fail.

I would imagine LM have a far better idea about which routes caused BMI to fail than you or I....

However EMA INV might just be a useful positioning or ferry route which coincidentally carries passengers.

But it runs in the middle of the day between the two EMA-BRU rotations?

Why no LHR to UK/Scottish domestics?

What would LM use to operate into LHR??

[goldeneye]

The EMA-INV will also allow flights to connect onto Stornoway, Benbecula, Kirkwall and Sumburgh and v.v.

Connections to and from the midlands that have been lacking since the BE franchise ended.