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I was looking through Google News and I found this interesting article in Dutch, it seems that KLM and Loganair are interested in pursuing a codeshare agreement on KLMs Scottish routes to faciltate growth out of a constrained Schiphol.
I'm not allowed to post links yet, but here is a translation of it:
If you want to find the articule yourself, type in "Loganair KLM" into Google News and there should be a Dutch article by "Zaken Reis".
I'm not allowed to post links yet, but here is a translation of it:
KLM Cityhopper is considering growing further as Schiphol clogs up by placing more seats in its aircraft. The company is also looking for more partners in Europe, says director Warner Rootliep. This is how the Scottish Loganair is now being discussed.
Because the number of flights at home base Schiphol can barely grow due to the growth stop of 500,000 flights, Cityhopper is looking at an increase in the number of seats on board its Embraer 190s.
Because the number of flights at home base Schiphol can barely grow due to the growth stop of 500,000 flights, Cityhopper is looking at an increase in the number of seats on board its Embraer 190s.
According to Rootliep, the growth stop at Schiphol also has consequences for the development of the Cityhopper network. "We are coming summer season, with the addition of Växjö in Sweden and Nantes in France at 69 destinations, close to our goal of seventy.There is still some stretch in it, but because of the limitations at Schiphol not much more.
To enable the network to grow, the company is looking for regional partners to fill in gaps. "We were approached in Scotland by Loganair, which serves forty small Scottish destinations such as the Shetlands, Wick and Barra. They could very well connect to our flights in Edinburgh and Inverness.
At the end of February a first collaboration was made with the Norwegian Widerøe who, as a code share partner, is able to connect the smallest Scandinavian destinations with the larger airports in Northern Europe that Cityhopper visits to Schiphol.
He also does not exclude code sharing with partners in other parts of Europe. "Only in contrast to our collaborations from the past is our starting point that we always take care of transport to and from Schiphol," says Rootliep.
To enable the network to grow, the company is looking for regional partners to fill in gaps. "We were approached in Scotland by Loganair, which serves forty small Scottish destinations such as the Shetlands, Wick and Barra. They could very well connect to our flights in Edinburgh and Inverness.
At the end of February a first collaboration was made with the Norwegian Widerøe who, as a code share partner, is able to connect the smallest Scandinavian destinations with the larger airports in Northern Europe that Cityhopper visits to Schiphol.
He also does not exclude code sharing with partners in other parts of Europe. "Only in contrast to our collaborations from the past is our starting point that we always take care of transport to and from Schiphol," says Rootliep.
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Loganair are to operate flights from Carlisle to Southend, Belfast and Dublin. Flights start in June and go on sale later today.
Southend - 2 x daily
Belfast - Daily
Dublin - Daily
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Southend - 2 x daily
Belfast - Daily
Dublin - Daily
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Loganair NWI ops
Does anyone know the reason for the cancellations and delays that have affected Loganairs flights from NWI over the last couple of days?. I notice that the flights that have operated from NWI over recent days have been operated by a SF3 in place of the usual D328.
Both D328 aircraft seem to have been parked since Tuesday morning, G-BYHG at BOH and G-CCGS in MAN. Have they been withdrawn from service?.
Both D328 aircraft seem to have been parked since Tuesday morning, G-BYHG at BOH and G-CCGS in MAN. Have they been withdrawn from service?.
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Having been involved in travel from 1968-2015 it always brings a smile to my face when I see questions like this.
Summer scheduled use to be released around November of the previous year and Winter in April. Tour operators did not put their Summer holidays on sale until New Year's Day (That was a manic day and of course computers didn't exist).
Now we all want to see timetables year in advance - and even before Slot Controlled airports have had their initial applications approved (Yes I appreciate that some slots will be automatically allocated on a grandfather rights basis).
Sorry about that!!
Summer scheduled use to be released around November of the previous year and Winter in April. Tour operators did not put their Summer holidays on sale until New Year's Day (That was a manic day and of course computers didn't exist).
Now we all want to see timetables year in advance - and even before Slot Controlled airports have had their initial applications approved (Yes I appreciate that some slots will be automatically allocated on a grandfather rights basis).
Sorry about that!!
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Does anyone know the reason for the cancellations and delays that have affected Loganairs flights from NWI over the last couple of days?. I notice that the flights that have operated from NWI over recent days have been operated by a SF3 in place of the usual D328.
Both D328 aircraft seem to have been parked since Tuesday morning, G-BYHG at BOH and G-CCGS in MAN. Have they been withdrawn from service?.
Both D328 aircraft seem to have been parked since Tuesday morning, G-BYHG at BOH and G-CCGS in MAN. Have they been withdrawn from service?.
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Anyone any idea how to actually book any of the new KLM/Air France interline flights? Doesn’t pick up on the KLM website. Also, what about the easyJet connections at Edinburgh and Inverness,, ‘early 2018’ is nearly over!
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I read somewhere that the SAAB 2000s are on short term leases and I know that the Do328s are for sale but ultimately nobody wants them, even for parts. I really hope the SAAB 2000s don't leave but ultimately if they do they WILL need replacing with something like AT46s etc. Please don't take my word as law. I just thought I heard the topics in question somewhere from memory.
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That's a pity, really like the 2000s and they're finally making an appearance again at LDY (My Local) on a scheduled basis from the 28th of October. When is the lease of them roughly up?
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The last I heard, the first 2000 goes back in as little as 6 months time and the last one will be gone in around 18 months time. From an operational point of view the Dornier 328 and SAAB 2000 are a complete disaster. The 2000 is an absolute beast of an aircraft and a perfect tool for the job, but in my opinion, the advantages gained from the suitability of the aircraft for the harsh environment is completely negated by the unreliability of the aircraft. All you have to do is look at the 2000 and 328 reliability, the 328 especially often picks up 2 or 3 hour delays, usually one of the two is Tech or AOG, I can imagine crewing them must be a nightmare, I have heard they are very short on both fleets and this might be the demise of the aircraft prior to the lease or sale of them! The whole fleet desperately needs unifying and the ATR is the only practical solution available.
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The last I heard, the first 2000 goes back in as little as 6 months time and the last one will be gone in around 18 months time. From an operational point of view the Dornier 328 and SAAB 2000 are a complete disaster. The 2000 is an absolute beast of an aircraft and a perfect tool for the job, but in my opinion, the advantages gained from the suitability of the aircraft for the harsh environment is completely negated by the unreliability of the aircraft. All you have to do is look at the 2000 and 328 reliability, the 328 especially often picks up 2 or 3 hour delays, usually one of the two is Tech or AOG, I can imagine crewing them must be a nightmare, I have heard they are very short on both fleets and this might be the demise of the aircraft prior to the lease or sale of them! The whole fleet desperately needs unifying and the ATR is the only practical solution available.
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I suspect they will be looking at a fleet replacement long term viable future, and the ATR unfortunately is the only one that fits the bill.
The cost of refleeting and retraining the crews is an uneveably task, and I think financially they are bruised after the Flybe debacle. I heard the first ATR was rumoured to be joining the fleet in January this year, to stagger the implementation and get everything ready. I’m also under the impression the ATR is really unpopular with the loganair crews, oil company’s and locals! Difficult situation
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The ATR42-300s are indeed rocks but the -600 that Stobart recently got to replace EHH & CBK wouldn't even attempt 25+ kts was diverting regularly during its first few weeks at CFN due to 22kts and upwards winds. The old-300s seemed to give it a go in +30 and make it as I always waited in anticipation for them diverting to LDY so I could get pictures of them but that rarely happened, sorry for the anecdote but it would seem ATR have tougher limits of the -600s