Loganair-2

[jijpc]

I suspect that it has.

It actually positioned Aberdeen to London City on Monday evening to undertake a rescue mission from LCY-IOM because of problems with ATR42 G-LMRA which was stranded at London City.
On Tuesday morning it did a IOM-LCY, again covering for the ATR before positioning back to ABZ before going over to Orebro.

[SWBKCB]

Originally Posted by fanrailuk

Launch of flights between Aberdeen and East Midlands delayed

Seems their rather rapid expansion has come to bite their behind...

Seems a bit harsh - launched a couple of routes, didn't work so they dropped them. Not the first, and won't be the last. Hardly the end of the world?

[sewushr]

And I see all of G-LMRA's IOM-LCY-IOM rotations were late again today. The first flight by 3 hours or more.

Time to get the SAAB back! ;-)

[Saabdriver1]

Seems their rather rapid expansion has come to bite their behind...

It's an interesting topic of conversation. Someone had counted up the other day and we have apparently launched 32 new routes in the last year and ditched 8. Even though some were probably dead certs like the EMA-EDI & GLA routes, there are many that weren't but have worked. A few of the 8 were said to be reliant on outside forces like corporate arrangements or airport support which sound not to have turned out as expected either. Certainly I think it's far better that routes that aren't working are dropped quickly instead of being allowed to rack up big losses.

Time to get the SAAB back! ;-)

If it's late, the ATR is doing better than the Saab 2000 did at that stage of its life then. If my memory is right, even the Saab 2000 CAA demo flight was about eight hours late!

[AirportsEd]

Thanks jipc,
I see that - as mentioned in an earlier reply to my question about the type's withdrawal from LCY - the Saab still has several LCY-IOM-LCY rotations left up until the end of the month.
Ed

[Rottweiler22]

Originally Posted by Saabdriver1

It's an interesting topic of conversation. Someone had counted up the other day and we have apparently launched 32 new routes in the last year and ditched 8. Even though some were probably dead certs like the EMA-EDI & GLA routes, there are many that weren't but have worked. A few of the 8 were said to be reliant on outside forces like corporate arrangements or airport support which sound not to have turned out as expected either. Certainly I think it's far better that routes that aren't working are dropped quickly instead of being allowed to rack up big losses

The EMA-BRU was a bit of a poor show, as personally I think LM waited way too long before
starting it. Most of the regular pax who enjoyed the route with BMI (Toyota workers usually) had found other options in the 5 months or so that route was inactive. September was just too late, and the loads showed it. Only lasted a couple of months. Doing it from INV was also a bit of an odd decision too. That was the second failed attempt at INV Embraer expansion in 2019 (INV-EMA and INV-BGO cancelled). Can’t be much call for EMA to Northern Scottish airports at all, considering the ABZ now been postponed.

Loads seem pretty decent on the GLA-EMA and EDI-EMA though.

[Jenny Tails]

I have heard a report (from two separate sources) that Logie management paid a visit to EGNS last week and met with the local Government and airport management. It sounds suspiciously like they are trying to protect themselves against the failure of a certain other airline.

Do they currently have the capacity to pick up any current BE routes from EGNS?

[SWBKCB]

Do they currently have the capacity to pick up any current BE routes from EGNS?

If paid enough, I'm sure they do...

[flyerguy]

They have been paying visits to the Island for the introduction of the ATR42 on the IOM-LCY routes etc

[JSCL]

On Island, yes. But I'm certainly not aware of any Gov (outside of Airport related) or ministerial engagement.

[flyerguy]

To be honest, reports are saying that Loganair have been planning for Flybe’s demise for a long time, and prior to FlyBMIs closure. So anything could be on the table. Would have to say a Saab to Manchester and Liverpool from the Island I don’t think would work, flights are busy. So more ATRs?

[Richard Taylor]

And now ending ABZ - SEN from 17/4/20 per the SEN thread.

[VickersVicount]

Originally Posted by Richard Taylor

And now ending ABZ - SEN from 17/4/20 per the SEN thread.

Like we didn't see that coming...

[DC3 Dave]

Originally Posted by VickersVicount

Like we didn't see that coming...

Question is: Is that a big thumbs down for SEN, or ABZ - LONDON?

If it’s the former then expect ABZ - LCY to be announced soon. LCY worked hard to woo Loganair and the DND PSO route.

[TartinTon]

Originally Posted by DC3 Dave

Question is: Is that a big thumbs down for SEN, or ABZ - LONDON?

If it’s the former then expect ABZ - LCY to be announced soon. LCY worked hard to woo Loganair and the DND PSO route.

The problem with LCY is the airport charges. Whereas SEN might charge £15 a pax LCY are charging £50+

[DC3 Dave]

Originally Posted by TartinTon

The problem with LCY is the airport charges. Whereas SEN might charge £15 a pax LCY are charging £50+

I can’t quote you any figures, but I believe LCY looked at Loganair at SEN and thought “This should be ours” How can we reach some common ground with the airline, certainly enough to encourage them to commit a season or two to the city airport.

[AirportPlanner1]

Originally Posted by VickersVicount

Like we didn't see that coming...

it might not have been too successful but neither can it have been too bad as it a. Started and b. Continued for almost a year

[mullac30]

According to G-INFO, AT76 G-FBXA is now on the Loganair AOC

[BAladdy]

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/n...irst-atr72-600

According to this article on Ch-Aviation the 2 ex BE ATR72-600’s are being subleased to LM through until just before the end of there lease term with BE. Does anyone know how long the aircraft are leased for?

[mullac30]

G-FBXB was transferred to the Loganair AOC yesterday according to G-INFO.