Loganair-2

[BACsuperVC10]

Originally Posted by SealinkBF

And the train journey is going to be split soon to aid efficiency....

Thats true bad move for connectivity, although its an hour quicker Norwich-London-Runcorn, than picking up the direct train at Liverpool South Parkway would you believe ! Plus no food / drink available on a 5 hour train trip .

[fotheringay]

Originally Posted by NickBarnes

Most definitely the use of a fuel hungry ERJ on such a short route was the cause of this, honestly wouldn't surprise me if eastern turn up with a J41 and take it on.

Yes, and add on NWI -EXT to the mix as well, recently vacated by Flybe, and you could have good aircraft utilisation. Although that said you might need something bigger than a J41 on the route as the monthly pax figures on this sector, according to CAA, was in the region of 2100 to 2500 per month this past year.

[AirportPlanner1]

Originally Posted by BACsuperVC10

I've used the route since the Eastern Airways days on it, its never been that busy a service but handy to have. I have to say of late i've taken the train more, a combination of times don't suit me, fares too expensive compared to rail and ease of travelling from a local railway station. Battling through Manchester T3 in the morning, and being stuck on the M56 to get to the airport in the first place, is quite stressful too.

Could you not have used the train from the airport to avoid the M56? I used the SEN-MAN service a fair bit while that ran, always connecting to the train either to Piccadilly or onwards elsewhere across the north. Very smooth and easy journey.

The last time I used it the NWI flight was next to us and only had low single figures both in and out, so some flights must have been real loss-makers which the ERJ would exacerbate.

[BAladdy]

According to Jethro’s fleet listings, Loganair are adding 2 ATR72-600’s (G-FBXA/B) in January, both aircraft are about 4 years olds and formally operated by BE on behalf of SAS

[mullac30]

Originally Posted by BAladdy

According to Jethro’s fleet listings, Loganair are adding 2 ATR72-600’s (G-FBXA/B) in January, both aircraft are about 4 years olds and formally operated by BE on behalf of SAS

That's more like it! Aside from the government Twotters, are these the youngest a/c they've ever acquired ?

[garry8g]

Originally Posted by BAladdy

According to Jethro’s fleet listings, Loganair are adding 2 ATR72-600’s (G-FBXA/B) in January, both aircraft are about 4 years olds and formally operated by BE on behalf of SAS

According to Planespotters, they are being leased from Flybe!

Is this perhaps to cover some work on behalf of Flybe (Connect Airways) ?

[Skipness One Foxtrot]

Originally Posted by mullac30

That's more like it! Aside from the government Twotters, are these the youngest a/c they've ever acquired ?

Not at all, the 146s, J41s and original ATP fleet were all factory fresh, as were a few of the SD360s?

[SWBKCB]

Weren't the original Islanders/Trislanders new as well?

[Skipness One Foxtrot]

Originally Posted by SWBKCB

Weren't the original Islanders/Trislanders new as well?

Indeed, and come to think of it, so was the original Twin Otter fleet.

[fjencl]

Originally Posted by BAladdy

According to Jethro’s fleet listings, Loganair are adding 2 ATR72-600’s (G-FBXA/B) in January, both aircraft are about 4 years olds and formally operated by BE on behalf of SAS

I wonder where they are going to be based and on what routes they will be operating them on.

[goldeneye]

Originally Posted by fjencl

I wonder where they are going to be based and on what routes they will be operating them on.

Believe the ATR72’s are for the Shetland services. To Aberdeen and Glasgow.

https://www.shetnews.co.uk/2019/12/1...to-fill-seats/

[fjencl]

Originally Posted by goldeneye

Believe the ATR72’s are for the Shetland services. To Aberdeen and Glasgow.

Many thanks

[OltonPete]

East Midlands

Originally Posted by BAladdy

LM are dropping there GLA-SEN service from 3rd January.

Are we adding East Midlands to Brussels and Inverness to the list?

I assume East Mids was a base and is this also closing based on whether the above is accurate.

Pete

[Enigma01]

Originally Posted by OltonPete

Are we adding East Midlands to Brussels and Inverness to the list?

I assume East Mids was a base and is this also closing based on whether the above is accurate.

Pete

Ex-BMI was doing ema-bru quite a long time. So it must have been a good route. What are the loadfactors nowadays? I can imagine the closure of this route would be very inconvenient for a lot of ppl.

grts

[CabinCrewe]

Looking good. All window shades down, is the the first for just cargo?

[mullac30]

Originally Posted by CabinCrewe

Looking good. All window shades down, is the the first for just cargo?

This is a cargo variant, the first pax ATR is due next month, and will likely be either G-LMRA or one of the G-FBX* frames.
G-LMRA was recently spotted in full livery in Toulouse:

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[OltonPete]

EMA

Originally Posted by Enigma01

Ex-BMI was doing ema-bru quite a long time. So it must have been a good route. What are the loadfactors nowadays? I can imagine the closure of this route would be very inconvenient for a lot of ppl.

grts

I understand it was not a base but worked from EDI. Aberdeen (when it starts), Glasgow and Edinburgh routes are not affected.

Pete

[BAladdy]

EDI to EBJ and HAJ have been added from April

[egnxema]

Originally Posted by OltonPete

I understand it was not a base but worked from EDI. Aberdeen (when it starts), Glasgow and Edinburgh routes are not affected.

Pete

hi Pete. Sorry if I've miss d a post, I've scrolled back to look, but have LM announced something about BRU or INV?

[OltonPete]

EMA

Originally Posted by egnxema

hi Pete. Sorry if I've miss d a post, I've scrolled back to look, but have LM announced something about BRU or INV?

I couldn't find the press release but it has been announced internally apparently and both are certainly not in the booking engine after the first week of the New Year when I checked Saturday.

Pete