Aurigny Air Services-2

[five zero by ortac]

GCI-JER & GCI-SOU

Aurigny have announced two additional routes;
GCI - SOU
GCI - JER
Both with their ATR42, twice daily, from May.

I guess Flybe / Blue Islands won't be too happy.

[GCILover]

Originally Posted by five zero by ortac

Aurigny have announced two additional routes;
GCI - SOU
GCI - JER
Both with their ATR42, twice daily, from May.

I guess Flybe / Blue Islands won't be too happy.

So these routes have already proved that they cannot sustain 2 operators. How on earth do Aurigny think that by adding more flights which will have to be at a reduced fair to gain customers will help them to break even,

Stop ordering new technology and new aircraft before that technology is approved might be a good place to start.

[Jerbourg]

And another new route to be announced shortly too I hear,
I wonder if it will be domestic or European?

[kcockayne]

Standby for even greater operational losses; & an opportunity for the States to bail them out for an even more substantial sum ! It just highlights the absurdity of it all as, while AUR are being bailed out, the States will also be subsidizing their main competitors to the tune of £825,000 to provide a Heathrow service which takes business away from their “ in house” airline ! You really could not make it up ! Just heard the Managing Director of AUR saying that the fares for these routes “will be attractive” - just wait - they may achieve losses even greater than I am expecting.

[bmaviscount]

Fascinating
History repeating itself on SOU and JER; SOU always used to have 2 operators and what happened to the BI/GR joint inter-island venture.
cant believe there is the demand
Shame Waves went bust
Inter island needs a higher frequency of small plane; Dornier better suited?

[cobopete]

Press releases state that the “spare” ATR 42 GHUET is to be used.
Pete

[Hermite]

Aurigny have been retiming the Alderney flights for a few days now. Anyone know why?

[Egda]

Aurigny have been retiming the Alderney

Shortage of ATC I believe, especially around Midday

[five zero by ortac]

Two aircraft on maintenance, one aircraft is tech awaiting parts, so only one serviceable aircraft. Hence the schedule going out the window.

[Hermite]

G-ETAC is back in service today but has a white rudder. Has this been replaced, and if so, what was wrong with the old one. I seem to recall that G-OAUR also appeared with a white rudder a few months ago. Same problem on both a/c?

[Jerbourg]

I'm hearing whispers that STN is to be dropped from the schedule, if this is true it seems that maybe the new Flybe & Blue Islands routes to LHR & SEN have eaten away at the passenger loads..

[KindaUnstuck]

Originally Posted by Jerbourg

I'm hearing whispers that STN is to be dropped from the schedule, if this is true it seems that maybe the new Flybe & Blue Islands routes to LHR & SEN have eaten away at the passenger loads..

It's been on the cards for a while, when I came back through Stansted last August the flight was late and the captain apologised and said that they had been having issues with the handling agents and that the route had been looked at carefully within the airline as it was causing Aurigny a headache but at that time it would continue for now due to lack of alternatives... maybe that and the other routes opening mean Aurigny are going to review their decision.

Whilst not necessarily unusual, I have noticed the ATR 42 seems to have done the Stansted run before it does the evening Jersey and Southampton runs a few times recently, suggesting that the loads are at best in the mid
​​​​​​40s each way

[kcockayne]

That is the point. Guernsey - London has a limited clientele. If you widen the options, you divide the available traffic between more operators. Simple, really. This neatly illustrates the folly of the States subsidizing their State airline & simultaneously subsidizing its main competitor !

[Jerbourg]

Two out of the three 228's have been tech numerous times over the last week - one for the entire week causing many cancellations.


Aurigny - The Islanders Airline.... (cough cough)

[Hermite]

Is there a crewing issue here - some crew going tec in addition to the a/c? I notice they are just running G-OAUR again today but have had time off rather than keeping up with just the one a/c - crew breaks maybe?

Also, do they need different crews for G-LGIS as it is a different variant?

[Gurnard]

Most aircrew are able to fly the older Do228 as well s the NGs.
I understand there has been a deterioration since ops was transferred from ACI to LGW. Last month saw "crew shortage" on occasions - not because of sickness but bungled rosters - giving crew time off but failing to provide cover. This resulted in flight cancellations and reschedulings so that one a/c could do all the flights for one day.

[Jerbourg]

The continually whinging CEO strikes again, he appears to forget that the taxpayer has subsidised his airline for 10's of million over the years & will continue to do so until decent management can turn the airline into profit.
https://gsy.bailiwickexpress.com/gsy.../#.XS4WL25FxPY

[kcockayne]

Originally Posted by Jerbourg

The continually whinging CEO strikes again, he appears to forget that the taxpayer has subsidised his airline for 10's of million over the years & will continue to do so until decent management can turn the airline into profit.

https://gsy.bailiwickexpress.com/gsy.../#.XS4WL25FxPY

I seriously want AUR to be profitable but, do you really think that there is even a small chance of this ever happening ?

[Gurnard]

Can't see that happening as long as it remains a States-owned airline. Your comment on the 3rd July hit the nail on the head perfectly. How absurd to subsidize not just your own airline but a competitor (flybe) too! Some Guernsey politicians evidently are making Westminster their role model.

[Egda]

Originally Posted by Gurnard

Can't see that happening as long as it remains a States-owned airline. Your comment on the 3rd July hit the nail on the head perfectly. How absurd to subsidize not just your own airline but a competitor (flybe) too! Some Guernsey politicians evidently are making Westminster their role model.

I suspect the subsidy would have been given to Aurigny if they had an aircraft capable of using Heathrow