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Old 20th May 2020, 11:26
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G-OAUR Dornier 228 is due to leave East Midlands for Guernsey today 20th May 2020.
ADS-B Exchange currently shows G-OAUR routing north from GCI up the middle of the UK in the general direction of EMA?
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Old 20th May 2020, 11:31
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Acting as a crew ferry for G-HUET which is due EMA-GCI today?
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Old 20th May 2020, 15:49
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Does anyone wonder if Flybe now gone whether Aurigny might get it's act together and start expanding? It's operations are so small it barely covers it's costs, and the fleet is so diverse too, I don't get why they need one E195 when they could just wet lease it from Stobart air?
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Old 20th May 2020, 18:09
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Well, when they bought the Embraer there was no Stobart Air.
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Old 20th May 2020, 19:59
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When they bought the E195 Stobart Air didn’t exist.
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Well said kockayne. Why would a government owned airline want to take on commercial risks? The investment by SOG is to ensure lifeline routes at least cost to the islands, and ensure the island has connectivity to mainland commercial and financial centres not to take commercial risk and become bigger and bigger like previous CI airlines ,eg FlyBe

PS The fleet mix is dictated by the following factors-
E195 to give Max seat capacity on GWK route
Dorniers - largest ac that can operate from ACI
ATR 72 seats most compatible with
demand from U.K. regional airports.

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Old 20th May 2020, 22:10
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Originally Posted by cobopete View Post
Well said kockayne. Why would a government owned airline want to take on commercial risks? The investment by SOG is to ensure lifeline routes at least cost to the islands, and ensure the island has connectivity to mainland commercial and financial centres not to take commercial risk and become bigger and bigger like previous CI airlines ,eg FlyBe

PS The fleet mix is dictated by the following factors-
E195 to give Max seat capacity on GWK route
Dorniers - largest ac that can operate from ACI
ATR 72 seats most compatible with
demand from U.K. regional airports.
GWK?
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Old 21st May 2020, 00:10
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If you wanted to keep connectivity why not just pay for an airline to operate those flights as have been done on the Newquay to London service? Much cheaper than the cost of running an airline. I'm not saying Aurigny should become massive like Flybe, but if there is a business case why shouldn't they look to expand a little, it's got to be better than constantly making a financial loss which the taxpayer has to foot the bill for.
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Old 21st May 2020, 00:11
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Didn't know that, thanks
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Old 21st May 2020, 08:16
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If you wanted to keep connectivity why not just pay for an airline to operate those flights as have been done on the Newquay to London service? Much cheaper than the cost of running an airline. I'm not saying Aurigny should become massive like Flybe, but if there is a business case why shouldn't they look to expand a little, it's got to be better than constantly making a financial loss which the taxpayer has to foot the bill for.
With the way it is run at the moment, instead of losing 4 - 10 million a year, it would lose maybe 40 - 100 million if it were to expand ! :-)
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Old 10th Jun 2020, 19:28
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Been told that the States of Guernsey told Aurigny no 'normal' flying until October which is why they went ahead and cancelled everything up to the end of August before the official update came from the States the other week.

Was also told Aurigny are very keen to get a second daily flight between Guernsey and Southampton going as on certain days they are now carrying decent loads (presumably people who have decided they will travel and put up with the 2 week lock down in Guernsey) however the States have told them no so the jet may be rolled out a bit more than every Friday.

I know it means very little but did a few dummy bookings for the next few weeks and certain flights (mainly the ones into Guernsey) were suggesting 50+ seats reserved onboard the aircraft, one flight was £199 one way basic fare.

The above came from a family member - no direct link to the airline but this being Guernsey they probably know the right sort of people to be told from someone in the know

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Old 10th Jun 2020, 19:38
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[QUOTE 50+ seats reserved onboard the aircraft, one flight was £199 one way basic fare.
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I believe a number of seats are blocked off to enable 'social distancing' on each flight.

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Old 10th Jun 2020, 20:24
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Aurigny are bidding to establish corridors between CI and IOM and up to Iceland too over this summer.

So that seems a little at odds with their wider plans.
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Old 10th Jun 2020, 21:19
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Iceland or Ireland?? Ireland I could see. DUB or BHD maybe
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Old 10th Jun 2020, 22:01
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Originally Posted by Alteagod View Post
Iceland or Ireland?? Ireland I could see. DUB or BHD maybe
If people are desperate to travel maybe it is Iceland, I believe they are basically Covid free and opening up from next week. I could see some demand from the Iceland end too given Guernsey’s relatively decent weather (certainly compared to Iceland) and that it’s ‘safe’ to visit
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Old 11th Jun 2020, 07:04
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Originally Posted by Alteagod View Post
Iceland or Ireland?? Ireland I could see. DUB or BHD maybe
ICEland indeed.
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ICEland indeed.
So what could operate GCI-Iceland??
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Old 11th Jun 2020, 07:25
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ICEland indeed.
A bit left-field, but will give them something useful to do with the Embraer. Not sure it would make KEF off GCI's little runway though?
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Old 11th Jun 2020, 07:39
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A bit left-field, but will give them something useful to do with the Embraer. Not sure it would make KEF off GCI's little runway though?
The plan is - as I understand it - to basically operate a bus service with the E jet.

GCI - JER - IOM - KEF.
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Old 11th Jun 2020, 10:06
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Originally Posted by JSCL View Post
The plan is - as I understand it - to basically operate a bus service with the E jet.

GCI - JER - IOM - KEF.
Can the E195 carry an economic payload the 3+ hours flying time off IOM runway up to KEF?
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