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Old 3rd Jul 2019, 21:11
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That is the point. Guernsey - London has a limited clientele. If you widen the options, you divide the available traffic between more operators. Simple, really. This neatly illustrates the folly of the States subsidizing their State airline & simultaneously subsidizing its main competitor !
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Old 15th Jul 2019, 17:45
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Two out of the three 228's have been tech numerous times over the last week - one for the entire week causing many cancellations.


Aurigny - The Islanders Airline.... (cough cough)
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Old 16th Jul 2019, 14:46
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Is there a crewing issue here - some crew going tec in addition to the a/c? I notice they are just running G-OAUR again today but have had time off rather than keeping up with just the one a/c - crew breaks maybe?

Also, do they need different crews for G-LGIS as it is a different variant?
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Old 16th Jul 2019, 16:08
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Most aircrew are able to fly the older Do228 as well s the NGs.
I understand there has been a deterioration since ops was transferred from ACI to LGW. Last month saw "crew shortage" on occasions - not because of sickness but bungled rosters - giving crew time off but failing to provide cover. This resulted in flight cancellations and reschedulings so that one a/c could do all the flights for one day.
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Old 16th Jul 2019, 18:26
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The continually whinging CEO strikes again, he appears to forget that the taxpayer has subsidised his airline for 10's of million over the years & will continue to do so until decent management can turn the airline into profit.
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Old 16th Jul 2019, 19:16
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Originally Posted by Jerbourg View Post
The continually whinging CEO strikes again, he appears to forget that the taxpayer has subsidised his airline for 10's of million over the years & will continue to do so until decent management can turn the airline into profit.

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I seriously want AUR to be profitable but, do you really think that there is even a small chance of this ever happening ?
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Old 16th Jul 2019, 20:26
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Can't see that happening as long as it remains a States-owned airline. Your comment on the 3rd July hit the nail on the head perfectly. How absurd to subsidize not just your own airline but a competitor (flybe) too! Some Guernsey politicians evidently are making Westminster their role model.
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Old 17th Jul 2019, 09:37
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Originally Posted by Gurnard View Post
Can't see that happening as long as it remains a States-owned airline. Your comment on the 3rd July hit the nail on the head perfectly. How absurd to subsidize not just your own airline but a competitor (flybe) too! Some Guernsey politicians evidently are making Westminster their role model.

I suspect the subsidy would have been given to Aurigny if they had an aircraft capable of using Heathrow
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Old 17th Jul 2019, 11:05
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Aurigny could use their Embraer 195 jet or as previous posters have stated the ATR72 can be operated into and out of Heathrow. It just needs careful management of approach and climb out speeds.


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Old 17th Jul 2019, 13:58
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Is there any information available how many passengers on the LHR flights are actually connecting via LHR to/from another destination (and if so, to/from a destination not available at LGW). I would supsect the percentage of connecting passengers is rather low, gven the frequency of the BE flight, so that the whole exercise looks more like a vanity project. Generally, it makes a lot of sense to concentrate on high frequencies from LGW instead of spreading operations between two large London airports. If at all, a low frequency, low fare service from another London airport - such as the Aurigny service to STN - makes senses that targents a different clientele.
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Old 17th Jul 2019, 15:26
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I suspect the subsidy would have been given to Aurigny if they had an aircraft capable of using Heathrow
Is there an issue with the ATR72 at LHR? Hop used them as slot sitters in recent years, and flybe DHDs are now remarkably common.
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Old 17th Jul 2019, 15:50
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot View Post
Is there an issue with the ATR72 at LHR? Hop used them as slot sitters in recent years, and flybe DHDs are now remarkably common.
DH8Ds are Category C now from what I've heard and seen at Dublin. ATRs are still only B, however, exceptions can be made.
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Old 28th Jul 2019, 10:11
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Bird strikes

Company advising of delays on the Alderney route yesterday due to bird strikes on a Dornier. Anyone have details of the event?
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Old 29th Jul 2019, 10:37
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The approach speeds into LHR for the Q400 are very similar to narrowbody jets so this is why they are so compatible with LHR
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Old 3rd Aug 2019, 18:42
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Flew the GCI LHR this week

Really took me back to the Air UK days

Lovely to ser the Dash 8 compete with the big jets

We were however delayed 3 hours due to the Dash going tech

Chatting to 2 business guys who had come to GcI for the day; couldn't understand why there were no direct European flights from the channel islands these days

Surely GR could do at least a daily GCI JER CDG?

(ir maybe better Flybe with AF codeshares)

The feeling was that Aurigny were just trying to preserve their gatwick route which is not brilliant for connections

I hope flybe keep the LHR route into the winter

Im trying the SEN route in a couple of weeks ; I canít imagine the loads are very high on that

I do note that Blue Islands have improved their GCI JER LCY connectivity for the winter timetable
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Old 3rd Aug 2019, 20:41
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Originally Posted by bmaviscount View Post

The feeling was that Aurigny were just trying to preserve their gatwick route which is not brilliant for connections
The Guernsey - Stansted route has supposedly been under review for a very long time now, even before the Southend and Heathrow routes were announced,

I noticed in the latest Gatwick slot report for Winter 2019 that they had applied (and were turned down) for another weekly slot pair (presumably to bring GR602/ 603 flights up to daily like all the other are.

The interesting thing would be how many people have they taken away from their own Gatwick service by starting up Southampton (where the flight prices seem to be generally cheaper than their LGW prices as they are trying to take passengers off Blue Islands) - it won't be huge numbers but it's probably a factor in their Gatwick figures being down a little although not as big a factor as the Heathrow service which I really hope stays around
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Old 3rd Aug 2019, 21:50
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Originally Posted by bmaviscount View Post
Im trying the SEN route in a couple of weeks ; I canít imagine the loads are very high on that
Why not? It had a JER route even before the new terminal was there and the current incarnation with EZY seems to be going strong.

The CAA figures for first few days of operation in May were reasonable. Iíve heard itís been doing OK generally, although not sure about yield as there seem to have been various promotions.
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Old 4th Aug 2019, 05:32
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Why not? It had a JER route even before the new terminal was there and the current incarnation with EZY seems to be going strong.

The CAA figures for first few days of operation in May were reasonable. Iíve heard itís been doing OK generally, although not sure about yield as there seem to have been various promotions.
I flew outbound from SEN to GCI recently. 27 pax including me. Not good given that we are in the peak holiday season.
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Old 4th Aug 2019, 07:03
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I flew outbound from SEN to GCI recently. 27 pax including me. Not good given that we are in the peak holiday season.
The load factor for June was 46% unless there were any cancelled flights I'm not aware of. There seems to have been a large increase in capacity on GCI-LON this year and the decision to fly GCI-SEN daily seemed strange to me.
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Old 4th Aug 2019, 08:48
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The load factor for June was 46% unless there were any cancelled flights I'm not aware of. There seems to have been a large increase in capacity on GCI-LON this year and the decision to fly GCI-SEN daily seemed strange to me.
I agree that a daily service GCI-SEN is probably to much, especially with the new LHR-GCI service as well. I would have thought 3/4 times weekly on the SEN route would have been enough for the Summer. What is more crazy is that Blue Islands is intending to continue the GCI-SEN throughout the winter at the same daily frequency, unless they change their mind a lot of money will be lost on that and also on the Aurigny GCI- STN service. I do believe that Blue Islands is trying to get Aurigny to drop that route, lets hope they have got deep pockets, time will tell.
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