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I am really surprised more has not been made of this. I know wet leasing is becoming a big part of these smaller airline's operations now, but if I am not mistaken, BMI are owned by the same company Logan are? Haven't Logan and Eastern just had a very public spat? Seems a bit daft Logan's parent now paying Eastern money to use one of their planes after they tried to put them out of business.
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BM9453 LDY-CWL, was on the ground 1hr 45mins then operated BM8934 CWL-LBA. It departed LBA about 20 mins ago to LDY after less than a hour on the ground.
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BM are increasing frequency on there BRS-CDG route from 11 to 14 x weekly from mid May BM plan to op 3 flights will operate on a Monday, Wednesday and Thursday, 2 flights will operate on Tuesday and Friday and 1 flight will operate on a Sunday
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Cheers, it flew over my house earlier. I take it is the crewing issues at the moment. Please forgive my ignorance but can you explain properly what is going on. I haven't really read up on it but I hear it is training issues etc?
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Lba is used for parts etc I think. Hopefully back in service next week although got used to eastern livery now
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G-RJXE - operated today’s LDY-STN-LDY rotation and according to BM’s website the two rotations tomorrow that where showing as being operated by S2000 have now changed to a ER4.
Earlier today D-AGRA a CRJ200 arrived in LDY this morning using the the flight number BM9366. I am guessing that it is possible we will see tomorrow’s flights operated by this aircraft. Does anyone know for sure what is the problem with this route... Guessinh irs crewing?.
If it is surely it makes sense to lease a aircraft for a longer period until they sort it out. Rather than having a different aircraft every couple of days?.
D-AGRA is registered to ProAir Aviation. This aircraft operated for BM back in September for a couple days ex BRS
Earlier today D-AGRA a CRJ200 arrived in LDY this morning using the the flight number BM9366. I am guessing that it is possible we will see tomorrow’s flights operated by this aircraft. Does anyone know for sure what is the problem with this route... Guessinh irs crewing?.
If it is surely it makes sense to lease a aircraft for a longer period until they sort it out. Rather than having a different aircraft every couple of days?.
D-AGRA is registered to ProAir Aviation. This aircraft operated for BM back in September for a couple days ex BRS
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BRS-FRA-BRS has not gone well today. The mid-morning flight (STD 11:50) didn't get off until 15:17, because the operating aircraft (G-RJXH) operated in from GRZ via BHX.
As a result the remaining flights of the day (BM1826, 1827, 1828) are also showing long delays.
Looking back over the last couple of days of schedules, I can see cancellations and delays of the same flights.
It still feels like there is insufficient slack in the flying schedule to handle predictable levels of technical failure or crew unavailability.
(Waiting to board and earwiging the radio, it seems it's not clear if the crew for the flight is in hours or not, which seems like something the operations team should just know?)
As a result the remaining flights of the day (BM1826, 1827, 1828) are also showing long delays.
Looking back over the last couple of days of schedules, I can see cancellations and delays of the same flights.
It still feels like there is insufficient slack in the flying schedule to handle predictable levels of technical failure or crew unavailability.
(Waiting to board and earwiging the radio, it seems it's not clear if the crew for the flight is in hours or not, which seems like something the operations team should just know?)
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Follow-up.
18:00 departure scheduled for 20:00, somehow avoiding the returning aircraft getting caught in the FRA 23:00 curfew??
18:15 departure moved to 18:35 (because turning an inbound MUC aircraft around). Departure boards go quickly from "Go To Gate" to "Gate Closing", so panicing pax running to the gate
19:05 Ground handler is advising the gate agent that departure will be 19:30, and to be ready for boarding
19:10 Departure boards in the terminal change to "Cancelled", which the gate agent didn't know about.
Really not a strong performance.
18:00 departure scheduled for 20:00, somehow avoiding the returning aircraft getting caught in the FRA 23:00 curfew??
18:15 departure moved to 18:35 (because turning an inbound MUC aircraft around). Departure boards go quickly from "Go To Gate" to "Gate Closing", so panicing pax running to the gate
19:05 Ground handler is advising the gate agent that departure will be 19:30, and to be ready for boarding
19:10 Departure boards in the terminal change to "Cancelled", which the gate agent didn't know about.
Really not a strong performance.
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And this morning the first BRS-MUC is the loser in the 'which flight will get delayed or canxed'
Boards showing a departure time of 06:30, a Gate Open time of 07:30, and the bmi website a departure time of 08:15.
Boards showing a departure time of 06:30, a Gate Open time of 07:30, and the bmi website a departure time of 08:15.
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I had the displeasure of working, for a short period, for this shower when they were known as Business Air back in the 1990's.
Talk about a village shop mentality, ABZ had a closure time of 2150L, absolute maximum extension time of 2230L, this shower had their passenger flights scheduled to arrive back in significantly after 2100 to have the seats removed in a timed X amount of few minutes to go off on their night Royal Mail flights, I mean it was 'skin of your teeth stuff' and a similar scenario once ABZ would re-open the next morning.
One day I was Ops Controller, or whatever the position was called, when the boss asked if we had any delays, I mean it was going like clockwork and I subsequently received a rollocking for not reporting a 3 minute delay when only a 2 minute delay was accepted as being on schedule.
And alas this is the way they shall always do it because it's the only way they know, last time I researched perhaps a couple of years back I recognised the management names still in situ, they've only ever worked in their village shop and not in a supermarket, it's the only way they know, fine tuning any scheduling and then kicking-off at the slightest hiccup, there was no hope for them then and it sounds like things haven't changed.
Talk about a village shop mentality, ABZ had a closure time of 2150L, absolute maximum extension time of 2230L, this shower had their passenger flights scheduled to arrive back in significantly after 2100 to have the seats removed in a timed X amount of few minutes to go off on their night Royal Mail flights, I mean it was 'skin of your teeth stuff' and a similar scenario once ABZ would re-open the next morning.
One day I was Ops Controller, or whatever the position was called, when the boss asked if we had any delays, I mean it was going like clockwork and I subsequently received a rollocking for not reporting a 3 minute delay when only a 2 minute delay was accepted as being on schedule.
And alas this is the way they shall always do it because it's the only way they know, last time I researched perhaps a couple of years back I recognised the management names still in situ, they've only ever worked in their village shop and not in a supermarket, it's the only way they know, fine tuning any scheduling and then kicking-off at the slightest hiccup, there was no hope for them then and it sounds like things haven't changed.
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This morning it's the turn of the first BRS-BRU flight to get cancelled. Anyone using that as a convenient connection via BRU must be pretty fed up. G-RJXI is on the Eastern apron, but no sign of life around it.
BRS-MUC should be boarding by now, but it's on boards as 'Please wait'. (Subsequently operated on-time by XI, which is the Brussels Airlines branded aircraft)
As well as XI, XL, XB (operating BRS-FRA) and XE are on the Eastern apron, so it seems like there are enough aircraft here.
BRS-MUC should be boarding by now, but it's on boards as 'Please wait'. (Subsequently operated on-time by XI, which is the Brussels Airlines branded aircraft)
As well as XI, XL, XB (operating BRS-FRA) and XE are on the Eastern apron, so it seems like there are enough aircraft here.
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This morning it's the turn of the first BRS-BRU flight to get cancelled. Anyone using that as a convenient connection via BRU must be pretty fed up. G-RJXI is on the Eastern apron, but no sign of life around it.
BRS-MUC should be boarding by now, but it's on boards as 'Please wait'. (Subsequently operated on-time by XI, which is the Brussels Airlines branded aircraft)
As well as XI, XL, XB (operating BRS-FRA) and XE are on the Eastern apron, so it seems like there are enough aircraft here.
BRS-MUC should be boarding by now, but it's on boards as 'Please wait'. (Subsequently operated on-time by XI, which is the Brussels Airlines branded aircraft)
As well as XI, XL, XB (operating BRS-FRA) and XE are on the Eastern apron, so it seems like there are enough aircraft here.