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Old 27th Sep 2017, 09:11
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Engage brain before posting! I have just remembered at least 2 engine failures - the Intra BN2 on finals at Guernsey & the AUR BN3 on take off at Jersey. Sorry for my "senior moment". At least they were both within gliding distance of safety - not to say that the next one will be, though !
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 10:27
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And I recall Air UK's first BAe146 for the GCI/LHR run, first day of operation and the oil in one engine went lumpy with fragments of metal in it.

Why the hell didn't Wave opt for a type such as the BN2, still in production, 2 engines etc?
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 10:49
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Also remember the Channel Islands Air Search plane which crashed on the north coast of Jersey in 2013.
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Old 27th Sep 2017, 18:12
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Originally Posted by planedrive View Post
@V12 - As a professional pilot, If the single engine of my single engine aircraft fails over the open water I have only one option as far as I'm aware. I'm going swimming. Perhaps you could enlighten me as to the other multiple options I've missed??

I have no problem at all with single crew ops. The Trislander guys down in the islands and up in the hebrides have my utmost respect and are some of the best in the business in my opinion.
Other options? yes of course it won’t go up, but for regular routes one can optimise the flight planning to give you more options; it requires detailed research beforehand, good use of height (20nm glide range from FL100),full understanding of ERAs and preprogrammed glide descents into them on the Synthetic vision. Long overwaters are clearly unwise, but around Europe I estimate that 95+% of likely routes, with judicious routings and altitudes can stay within reach of a suitable ERA, and can largely avoid being far offshore. And regulators allow a short zone outside range of a suitable ERA, at cruise altitude, I believe in the basis that if it’s going to stop, its least likely at cruise power, if I am not mistaken?

And of course, like you I respect the crews you mention, but single crew failures are more likely to be on health matters, not individual skill sets.

Given the choice of getting in a Navajo, Chieftain, Titan, Islander, Trislander etc, (and I have been in plenty of all of them) or a Caravan from a known carrier, I would be choosing the latter every time. Too many twin fatalities with insufficient asymmetric power for my liking; heavily laden they are more than a handful.

You can never eliminate all risk, but usually it’s the surface journey to the airport where the real risk exposure is.
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Old 5th Dec 2017, 20:21
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https://guernseypress.com/news/2017/...ing-illegally/

Copied from the Aurigny thread, as seems more appropriate here

In its court action, Blue Islands says Waves is not an air taxi because it sells individual seats to customers; it has been marketing seats for sale on flights that have no passengers booked on them; and the destination, always either Guernsey or Jersey, is specified by the airline, not the customer.
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Old 4th Jan 2018, 15:37
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Waves is changing it's business model (already).

https://guernseypress.com/news/2018/...-to-be-lawful/
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Old 4th Jan 2018, 16:27
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...to what? Only a full plane can be booked (as assumed in the comments' section of the linked article?). Looks like a non-starter then.
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Old 13th Jan 2018, 22:00
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A real shame
Inter island travel has really deteriorated since Aurigny stopped flying trislamders in the route
Now just a few ATRs by blue islands with huge gaps between services
Needs to be a smallaircraft operation
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Old 23rd Mar 2018, 17:12
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Waves have been granted an inter island licence to operate GCI/JER & GCI/ACI & thus sell single seats. I wonder if they will operate a schedule or if it will be as/when as pax request flights?

https://gsy.bailiwickexpress.com/gsy/news/
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Old 19th Apr 2018, 20:39
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Originally Posted by Jerbourg View Post
Waves have been granted an inter island licence to operate GCI/JER & GCI/ACI & thus sell single seats. I wonder if they will operate a schedule or if it will be as/when as pax request flights?

https://gsy.bailiwickexpress.com/gsy/news/
Looks an odd system where by they sell the whole airctaft but nearer the day they seem to offer single seats; presumably the chaterer sells spare seats?

Difficult if you are planning a long way out.....
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Old 26th Jun 2018, 14:07
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Beeb reporting that all flights cancelled and bookings suspended until 1 September in order to “take stock of [the company’s] position in the current market place”.
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Old 26th Jun 2018, 14:52
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'Waves' Goodbyeeee as they say.
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Old 26th Jun 2018, 19:29
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Was a very odd model
either you sell seats or you dont
was impossible to book an inter island flight unless someone had chartered an airctaft with empty seats
i hope the re emerge with a proper schedule
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Old 26th Jun 2018, 21:53
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I hope they re-emerge with a proper aircraft !
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Old 18th Aug 2018, 05:38
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What has happened to them

Just spent a week in Guernsey and there is no evidence of any Waves Caravan

There was an article in the Guernsey Press sating that they owed the tax man a lot of money

Is this all channel island dirty tricks?

Do we think they will re-appear?

If you look at their website you do see the odd charter flight booked
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Old 18th Aug 2018, 08:07
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Originally Posted by bmaviscount View Post
Just spent a week in Guernsey and there is no evidence of any Waves Caravan

There was an article in the Guernsey Press sating that they owed the tax man a lot of money

Is this all channel island dirty tricks?

Do we think they will re-appear?

If you look at their website you do see the odd charter flight booked
I don't think the Channel Islands need to be accused of dirty tricks. However Waves don't appear to have much of a future - or Air Alderney for that matter (originally planned to commence services in September 2017).
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Old 18th Aug 2018, 11:34
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Originally Posted by bmaviscount View Post
Is this all channel island dirty tricks?

Do we think they will re-appear?
https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/n...bt-proceedings
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