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So they shave 1cm off each seat. Might just be me being picky, but would that really save much Fuel burn. Could see each seat maybe saving about 1kg each each so x 189 = upto 189kgs / around 400lb. All it takes is a few extra large passengers to undo all the hard work (assuming they could sit in the new seat in the first place
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Unless Norwegian are willing to weigh pax before embarking, then overcharging for the larger pax. Similar to a couple of Pacific operators i can't remember the name of...
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Yes the plane would be lighter with 0 pax, but as i mentioned, all the hard work of shedding the weight could be outdone by the people coming onto the plane.
Unless Norwegian are willing to weigh pax before embarking, then overcharging for the larger pax. Similar to a couple of Pacific operators i can't remember the name of...
Unless Norwegian are willing to weigh pax before embarking, then overcharging for the larger pax. Similar to a couple of Pacific operators i can't remember the name of...
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Yes the plane would be lighter with 0 pax, but as i mentioned, all the hard work of shedding the weight could be outdone by the people coming onto the plane.
Unless Norwegian are willing to weigh pax before embarking, then overcharging for the larger pax. Similar to a couple of Pacific operators i can't remember the name of...
Unless Norwegian are willing to weigh pax before embarking, then overcharging for the larger pax. Similar to a couple of Pacific operators i can't remember the name of...
if the DOW of the aeroplane is 45000kg and you add the pax, that’s 54000kg...
If the aeroplane has lighter seats and the DOW decreases to say 44750kg and you add those same passengers, that’s 53750kg...
Lets assume in both cases 5 ‘large’ passengers board at a combined 1000kg...(chunky, but easy maths)
55000 vs 54750...the aircraft always weighs less with the new seats, hence it requires less fuel to take the same passengers across the same distance in the same conditions...
It’s very simple maths and when you scale that across an entire fleet, say 100 aeroplanes, that’s 25,000kg saved across the fleet in this example and some serious $$$ off your fleets fuel bill.
So no, the hard work isn’t ‘outdone’ by increasing the payload.
*The example is hypothetical and I’ve made no attempt to reflect the true weights of pax or the MAX’ DOW
Norwegian are saving 400kg on every flight made by the modified aircraft. No doubt someone with access to tech data will be able to calculate what that means in terms of reduced fuel burn. The only calculation needed is the cost of the refurb (including AOG time) v fuel saving. By adding in cost of capital, you will get a payback period, and management must judge whether that suits their financial objectives.
The weight of passengers is a red herring. Their weight will not be affected by Norwegian's seats!
The weight of passengers is a red herring. Their weight will not be affected by Norwegian's seats!
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That is (and was) the plan. The only real change at Gatwick for next year looks to be switching Singapore with either Sao Paulo or Rio.
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Norwegian are saving 400kg on every flight made by the modified aircraft. No doubt someone with access to tech data will be able to calculate what that means in terms of reduced fuel burn. The only calculation needed is the cost of the refurb (including AOG time) v fuel saving. By adding in cost of capital, you will get a payback period, and management must judge whether that suits their financial objectives.
The weight of passengers is a red herring. Their weight will not be affected by Norwegian's seats!
The weight of passengers is a red herring. Their weight will not be affected by Norwegian's seats!
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yes thats allright then lol
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Travel Weekly is reporting that all the airlines A320neos are up for sale - about 100 aircraft. Six Boeing 737s were also disposed of last week. Also the airline is due to start domestic services in Argentina shortly. Not very good timing considering the state that country is in at the moment.
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Travel Weekly is reporting that all the airlines A320neos are up for sale - about 100 aircraft. Six Boeing 737s were also disposed of last week. Also the airline is due to start domestic services in Argentina shortly. Not very good timing considering the state that country is in at the moment.
Older B737's are being withdrawn from service and sold on as the airline receives their new B737 MAX.
Both aren't really newsworthy as it was always the airlines intention to do so.
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I believe Norwegians initial intention was to lease the 320's out, but haven't really found a suitable market apart from HK. Its to be seen if Norwegian are able to make a bit of a premium on it with early slots - which could be interesting for a number of airlines with capacity constraints.