Dublin-3

[2Para]

Originally Posted by FFHKG

Airline Routes rare this morning reporting that Norwegian are suspending/cancelling a couple of its routes from DUB

wakey wakey, all of them are for the chop!

[Cyrano]

Originally Posted by 2Para

wakey wakey, all of them are for the chop!

"Wakey wakey" indeed, Para. The long-haul routes are for the chop. I hadn't seen any suggestion of the short-haul routes being chopped, so I think this is new news. Airlineroute says that DUB-CPH is being dropped for the winter and DUB-HEL is being dropped completely.

[Una Due Tfc]

The whole group is on the precipice once again.

On more positive news I see the AA CEO said he expects Dublin to be their major focus city in Europe for expansion for the foreseeable. I've read DFW is supposed to be going daily, but outside of that realistically what new routes are there other than possibly going year round on CLT and ORD? Their XLRs don't start arriving til 2023 which might halt their retreat in JFK. Maybe they could take over MIA from EI once the JV is finalised due their South American connections. Other than that, I know the EI LAX flights are rammed in summer but realistically they'd need a 787 or 777 to launch that and that's a huge amount of extra capacity to fill. What other hubs of theirs aren't connected? RDU is a bit left field...

[840]

PHX is a hub for them and unserved from Dublin. It would need to pick up significant connecting traffic to be viable.

There's always background chatter about La Guardia dropping its perimeter rule. With pre-clearance, Dublin would be the only European hub that could operate flights. The short runway probably precludes it though. I'd note that it's very similar in length to Cork's runway and Norwegian said that was too short for 737Max flights to SWF, so other than the fact the short runway is on the western side of the Atlantic, it's not easy to see what would make it more suitable for Transatlantic flights. Anyway, the last time that background chatter turned into something more serious, it didn't happen, so there's no reason to expect anything imminent.

[DUB19]

Qatar A350

Qatar Airways are scheduled to bring the Airbus A350-900 to Dublin on the 29th & 30th (Dep 1 October) of September, is this due to a hike in demand on these dates?

[quantumofcheese]

EI156 DUB-LHR 5th October 2019 EI-LRA

Video of takeoff from RWY 28

You Tube

EI-LRA Seat 7A

Bulkhead PTV

View from seat 7

AerSpace onboard EI-LRA

[DUB19]

Speculation that LOT are intending to launch DUB-WAW for next summer.
also Transavia DUB-MPL is being considered as well as Egypt Air to Cairo.
Nothing confirmed as of yet.

[Plane mad 134]

ACL S20 report

Here is the important bits of the ACL S20 ICR Report:

· Aer Lingus new services to Alghero, Bournemouth, Heraklion, Ibiza, Krakow, Menorca and Poznan
· Aer Lingus Decrease Aberdeen and Milan Malpensa
· Aer Lingus increase Alicante, Leeds Bradford, London Heathrow, Milan Linate, Manchester, Orlando, Miami, Montpellier, Minneapolis, Prague, Seattle, San Francisco and Vienna
· Air Arabia Maroc cancel Agadir
· Air Canada increase Vancouver
· Air Dolomiti new chaters to Milan, Bologna and Verona
· Air France increase Paris with a new daily morning departure
· Arkia Cancel Tel Aviv
· ASL cancel Dalaman
· Ba Cityflyer New Faro and Reus service
· Ba Cityflyer Increase London City too
· Egypt air New Cairo
· EL AL new Tel Aviv
· Etihad decrease Abu Dhabi
· Finnair increase Helsinki
· Flybe Decrease Doncaster and increase Cardiff and Southampton
· Great Dane cancel Aalborg
· Hainan Cancel Shenzhen (not Beijing which they have retained the slots for!)
· Icelandair increase Keflavik
· Juneyao are to add new Shangahai via Helsinki
· Lauda Increase Vienna
· LOT new Warsaw
· Lufthansa Increase Frankfurt
· Ryanair New to Billund, Marseille, Palanga, Podgorica, Toulouse and Verona
· Ryanair decrease Milan Bergamo, Edinburgh, Liverpool and Southend
· Ryanair Increase Dubrovnik, Gothenburg, Luton, Milan Malpensa, Vilnius, Lanzarote, Malaga, Alicante, Bordeaux, Bournemouth, Nantes, Palma, Reus, Riga, Rzeszow and Spilt.
· Ryanair Cancel Stuttgart
· SunExpress increase Izmir
· Transavia increase Paris Orly
· Tui increase Palma and Cancel Malaga, Paphos, Faro and Salzburg
· Vueling increase Barcelona
· Westjet New Toronto service

Source: ACL S20 DUB initial coordination report

Thats all guys.

[PDXCWL45]

Originally Posted by Plane mad 134

Here is the important bits of the ACL S20 ICR Report:

· Aer Lingus new services to Alghero, Bournemouth, Heraklion, Ibiza, Krakow, Menorca and Poznan
· Aer Lingus Decrease Aberdeen and Milan Malpensa
· Aer Lingus increase Alicante, Leeds Bradford, London Heathrow, Milan Linate, Manchester, Orlando, Miami, Montpellier, Minneapolis, Prague, Seattle, San Francisco and Vienna
· Air Arabia Maroc cancel Agadir
· Air Canada increase Vancouver
· Air Dolomiti new chaters to Milan, Bologna and Verona
· Air France increase Paris with a new daily morning departure
· Arkia Cancel Tel Aviv
· ASL cancel Dalaman
· Ba Cityflyer New Faro and Reus service
· Ba Cityflyer Increase London City too
· Egypt air New Cairo
· EL AL new Tel Aviv
· Etihad decrease Abu Dhabi
· Finnair increase Helsinki
· Flybe Decrease Doncaster and increase Cardiff and Southampton
· Great Dane cancel Aalborg
· Hainan Cancel Shenzhen (not Beijing which they have retained the slots for!)
· Icelandair increase Keflavik
· Juneyao are to add new Shangahai via Helsinki
· Lauda Increase Vienna
· LOT new Warsaw
· Lufthansa Increase Frankfurt
· Ryanair New to Billund, Marseille, Palanga, Podgorica, Toulouse and Verona
· Ryanair decrease Milan Bergamo, Edinburgh, Liverpool and Southend
· Ryanair Increase Dubrovnik, Gothenburg, Luton, Milan Malpensa, Vilnius, Lanzarote, Malaga, Alicante, Bordeaux, Bournemouth, Nantes, Palma, Reus, Riga, Rzeszow and Spilt.
· Ryanair Cancel Stuttgart
· SunExpress increase Izmir
· Transavia increase Paris Orly
· Tui increase Palma and Cancel Malaga, Paphos, Faro and Salzburg
· Vueling increase Barcelona
· Westjet New Toronto service

Thats all guys.

Are these all extra or are many of these currently onsale?

[DUB19]

Originally Posted by Plane mad 134

Here is the important bits of the ACL S20 ICR Report:

· Aer Lingus new services to Alghero, Bournemouth, Heraklion, Ibiza, Krakow, Menorca and Poznan
· Aer Lingus Decrease Aberdeen and Milan Malpensa
· Aer Lingus increase Alicante, Leeds Bradford, London Heathrow, Milan Linate, Manchester, Orlando, Miami, Montpellier, Minneapolis, Prague, Seattle, San Francisco and Vienna
· Air Arabia Maroc cancel Agadir
· Air Canada increase Vancouver
· Air Dolomiti new chaters to Milan, Bologna and Verona
· Air France increase Paris with a new daily morning departure
· Arkia Cancel Tel Aviv
· ASL cancel Dalaman
· Ba Cityflyer New Faro and Reus service
· Ba Cityflyer Increase London City too
· Egypt air New Cairo
· EL AL new Tel Aviv
· Etihad decrease Abu Dhabi
· Finnair increase Helsinki
· Flybe Decrease Doncaster and increase Cardiff and Southampton
· Great Dane cancel Aalborg
· Hainan Cancel Shenzhen (not Beijing which they have retained the slots for!)
· Icelandair increase Keflavik
· Juneyao are to add new Shangahai via Helsinki
· Lauda Increase Vienna
· LOT new Warsaw
· Lufthansa Increase Frankfurt
· Ryanair New to Billund, Marseille, Palanga, Podgorica, Toulouse and Verona
· Ryanair decrease Milan Bergamo, Edinburgh, Liverpool and Southend
· Ryanair Increase Dubrovnik, Gothenburg, Luton, Milan Malpensa, Vilnius, Lanzarote, Malaga, Alicante, Bordeaux, Bournemouth, Nantes, Palma, Reus, Riga, Rzeszow and Spilt.
· Ryanair Cancel Stuttgart
· SunExpress increase Izmir
· Transavia increase Paris Orly
· Tui increase Palma and Cancel Malaga, Paphos, Faro and Salzburg
· Vueling increase Barcelona
· Westjet New Toronto service

Thats all guys.

very intriguing stuff.
Westjet Toronto would be great along with Shanghai.
I’m guessing the AUH decrease is the extra 4 weekly 787 service that operate this summer?
Looks like Arkia Couldn’t handle the EL AL competition

Edit: can you provide a source?

[SWBKCB]

Hasn't the Juneyao already announce that the Helsinki service will extend to MAN? How many of these applications are aspirational/tactical rather than concrete?

[DUB19]

Originally Posted by SWBKCB

Hasn't the Juneyao already announce that the Helsinki service will extend to MAN? How many of these applications are aspirational/tactical rather than concrete?

shanghai - Helsinki runs 7 days a week with 3 extending to Manchester. That leaves 4 available days

[DUB19]

Juneyao Launching Dublin - Shanghai

Juneyao Have announced a new 2x Dublin - Helsinki - Shanghai.
The route will commence in March on the brand new 787 Dreamliner.
The DUB-HEL Leg will be 5th Freedom in J & Y Class.

Fantastic news for Ireland

https://www.dublinairport.com/latest...shanghai-route

[PPRuNeUser0176]

United announce year round SFO route with B788. Begins 5 June operates daily during peak season.

ex SFO 15.55-09.45
ex DUB 11.50-14.20

[Noxegon]

Originally Posted by EI-EIDW

United announce year round SFO route with B788. Begins 5 June operates daily during peak season.

ex SFO 15.55-09.45
ex DUB 11.50-14.20

Shame the times are so close to the existing EI service. Neither will allow a full day of work in the Bay Area in either direction

[WHBM]

Runway usage

Just a question from a regular user here who finds many an evening has been spent in a lengthy queue waiting for departure on 28.

Why is 34 also not used for departures at busy times, especially for those flights which turn right downwind on departure anyway. And what would be the reaction if a crew were to request it ?

[DUB19]

Originally Posted by WHBM

Just a question from a regular user here who finds many an evening has been spent in a lengthy queue waiting for departure on 28.

Why is 34 also not used for departures at busy times, especially for those flights which turn right downwind on departure anyway. And what would be the reaction if a crew were to request it ?

If you use both 28 & 34 there will be no room for aircraft holding short on 34

[Una Due Tfc]

Originally Posted by WHBM

Just a question from a regular user here who finds many an evening has been spent in a lengthy queue waiting for departure on 28.

Why is 34 also not used for departures at busy times, especially for those flights which turn right downwind on departure anyway. And what would be the reaction if a crew were to request it ?

28/34 are used together from 0600-0730 wind permitting. It is only really possible then due to the massive bias towards departures. I believe creating gaps in the queue for T2 arrivals to slip through is problematic due taxiway layout. For the rest of the day, there isn't as large a ratio of departures vs arrivals so it can't really be done. Remember when 34 is in use, it can't be used as a taxiway.

[Dannyboy39]

Originally Posted by WHBM

Just a question from a regular user here who finds many an evening has been spent in a lengthy queue waiting for departure on 28.

Why is 34 also not used for departures at busy times, especially for those flights which turn right downwind on departure anyway. And what would be the reaction if a crew were to request it ?

Glad it's not just me frustrated with this - the winter time isn't as bad, but I remember on one occasion in the summer I was waiting over 30 minutes! Yes the taxiway layout isn't the best, but I'd like to think you'd gain anyway by a little bit of reorganisation.

[PPRuNeUser0176]

Dual operation taxi routes had to be changed after an incident a few years ago and made things worse.

Shame the times are so close to the existing EI service. Neither will allow a full day of work in the Bay Area in either direction [img]images/smilies/sowee.gif[/img]

Don't know how they managed to get the slots they did.