Bournemouth-4

[Dropoffcharge]

Originally Posted by davidjohnson6

I'm guessing that BOH offered a very reasonable price to BA for long term parking if they are to store 21 aircraft

Some sensible business decisions by RCA, which could make a big difference to the airports survival long term, making use of the vast underutilised space they have seems a no brainer.

[Buster the Bear]

I was told, no way of confirming, that the charge is £250 per airframe per day.

[Flitefone]

Originally Posted by dixi188

Shades of the 1970s when Hurn used to fill up with diversions.

One of those distant days saw 28 arrive, Tridents, 1-11s and Comets, a few years later SAS MD80s and A300s appeared too..

[Jetscream 32]

Originally Posted by Buster the Bear

I was told, no way of confirming, that the charge is £250 per airframe per day.

Bit different to the £150 a week I was paying for the L-1011 a few years back....

[dixi188]

Originally Posted by Flitefone

One of those distant days saw 28 arrive, Tridents, 1-11s and Comets, a few years later SAS MD80s and A300s appeared too..

Remember going to work one morning and counting 35 diversions. No more space to park aircraft.
Disused runway and 17/35 full, north side taxiways full, some on BAC site and a Vanguard by the tower blocking that taxiway.
All of Courtlines 1-11s, Lufthansa 727s and 737s, Dan-Air comets, TMAC CL-44, Tridents, Viscounts, Vanguard, Alitalia DC-9.
Happy days.

[Dropoffcharge]

Originally Posted by RJ100

6 more BA flights due to arrive this afternoon. Arrival times: 1322, 1422, 1514, 1559, 1644 and 1729.

Also a couple of Virgin A340's by the looks of it.

[EXEL1966]

3 x Virgin A340-600s should have arrived from PIK

and BA are sending 40 a/c to BOH. More to arrive in the next 2 days.

[Sharklet_321]

BOH saw some impressive growth in Jan’20 up 22% on Jan’19 with over 43,500 pax during the month. Year to date figure stands at over 811,000.

Significant growth on Faro, Kraków and Las Palmas. Geneva was up 11%. Strong growth on Malta & Barbados.

Oddly, some declines seen on Spain (ALC & AGP) and Canaries (TFS & ACE)

[shamrock7seal]

Bournemouth will probably only see 250,000 or 350,000 this year assuming flights resume in July.

Travel will undoubtedly come back but it's probably reset aviation by around 15 years or more. Who knows if a full recovery will be seen in 2021.

[Captain Cargo]

The payloads of Ryanair to Krakow.

[Sharklet_321]

February passengers up 23.6%

Final month before the COVID-19 distortion:

February 2020 saw a 23.6% rise to 42,354 pax or 818,920 year to date (20.1% increase on year before)

Biggest growth seen on Las Palmas up 129%, but big gains on Faro, Malta, Alicante, Malaga and Geneva. Dublin did well as did Krakow but Prague seemed to struggle a little with only 2,453 pax. Decline of 3% seen on Tenerife. Huge decline seen on Paphos as Ryanair moved to summer seasonal only.

Such a shame that this positive growth story has now been stopped dead in its tracks by COVID-19 but everyone is in the same boat. Will be interesting to see how much of it comes back after the crisis is over. I believe that leisure travel will come back in a big way but UK domestic may struggle.

[stewyb]

Originally Posted by Sharklet_321

Final month before the COVID-19 distortion:

February 2020 saw a 23.6% rise to 42,354 pax or 818,920 year to date (20.1% increase on year before)

Biggest growth seen on Las Palmas up 129%, but big gains on Faro, Malta, Alicante, Malaga and Geneva. Dublin did well as did Krakow but Prague seemed to struggle a little with only 2,453 pax. Decline of 3% seen on Tenerife. Huge decline seen on Paphos as Ryanair moved to summer seasonal only.

Such a shame that this positive growth story has now been stopped dead in its tracks by COVID-19 but everyone is in the same boat. Will be interesting to see how much of it comes back after the crisis is over. I believe that leisure travel will come back in a big way but UK domestic may struggle.

why will UK domestic struggle, people and businesses still need to travel nationwide!

[The Nutts Mutts]

Originally Posted by stewyb

why will UK domestic struggle, people and businesses still need to travel nationwide!

You know why Stewy- because that's what SOU does.
Even in this time of global crisis people still seem unable to resist trying to get a dig in at their local rival.

[stewyb]

[QUOTE=The Nutts Mutts;10731373]You know why Stewy- because that's what SOU does.
Even in this time of global crisis people still seem unable to resist trying to get a dig in at their local rival.[/QUOTE

Rivals to some maybe but let’s not forget these are ridiculously tough times for all and one thing is for certain, I believe both south coast airports will survive this and come back stronger in the months ahead!

[Wycombe]

I believe both south coast airports will survive this and come back stronger in the months ahead!

Really! That seems a somewhat diluded view.

BOH will get it's (mainly) holiday/owners abroad destinations back with RYR and TOM
SOU will get some of it's trunk routes back with lower frequencies on (mainly) smaller aircraft
(based upon what we have seen so far before CV-19 took hold)

I think that's the reality we are facing, which I don't see as coming back stronger.

[BAladdy]

5 BA 747’s due to be flown from LHR for storage on 31st March. The aircraft planned to be stored at BOH are:

G-BNLY (Landor Livery)
G-BYGF
G-CIVC (Oneworld Titles)
G-CIVU
G-CIVW

[LTNman]

Originally Posted by shamrock7seal

Bournemouth will probably only see 250,000 or 350,000 this year assuming flights resume in July.

Travel will undoubtedly come back but it's probably reset aviation by around 15 years or more. Who knows if a full recovery will be seen in 2021.

Predictions of recovery take no account of the fact that most people will come out of this crisis financially poorer. When people are poorer the first thing to go are holidays. I am only one week into this and I have already taken a massive financial hit. Remaining prepaid holidays will be taken for this year if allowed but next year I will be curbing my travel plans to save money and will continue to do so in the following years I fear.

As Bournemouth is almost a pure leisure airport it relies on discretionary spending.

[easyflyer83]

I’m not saying this time round will be the same but during the last downturn there was strong evidence that people actually ring fences money for an holiday and that the main holiday was increasingly being seen as more of a necessity as opposed to a luxury.

[kcockayne]

Originally Posted by easyflyer83

I’m not saying this time round will be the same but during the last downturn there was strong evidence that people actually ring fences money for an holiday and that the main holiday was increasingly being seen as more of a necessity as opposed to a luxury.

But, this time round is totally unprecedented. Who can have even an inkling of what will happen ? Whatever happens, we will be faced with changes of cataclysmic effect !

[ATNotts]

Originally Posted by easyflyer83

I’m not saying this time round will be the same but during the last downturn there was strong evidence that people actually ring fences money for an holiday and that the main holiday was increasingly being seen as more of a necessity as opposed to a luxury.

Totally off aviation, but you may not know that personal finance experts recommend that people have a savings cushion of three months in case something unexpected would happen. The reality is that most people don't have three weeks of cushion. Presently much of the population is going to wind up either on furlough, with just 80% of their income paid by the government, and another tranche will be working but with their income drastically reduced. The only groups that are likely to be unaffected and have the luxury of being able to stash some cash for a holiday are those on final salary pension schemes, or decent annuities, of those working in the public and vital industry sectors.

People aren't going to have the luxury of taking a (foreign) holiday after 6 months of this, and I really can't see it lasting just the three. Optimists really need to take a reality check!.

I can see the commercial aviation industry virtually going back to "ground zero", and the clock being completely reset, with a myriad of new carriers and tour operators rising up, run by senior managers, each in small market segments as we had in the 1960s and 1970, and that they will bit by bit be consolidated in larger, though perhaps not global players. I say this because after this crisis has run it's course there will be far more urgent calls upon government support than supporting leisure businesses; especially after they have been splashing the cash keeping people's heads above water during the crisis.