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[rog747]

Well TUI have announced that they are taking up to a 300m Euro hit (ie: direct costs, £££money spent out on service recovery etc for the S19 disruptions)
That is TUI as a whole - not just the UK MAX ops.

Assume they send that bill into Boeing once the 737M-8 is online again?

Regards, R

[MARKEYD]

Ryanair have added over 32 extra flights to cover the half term in October/November period
These include all the usual destinations served in the summer

[Dropoffcharge]

Originally Posted by MARKEYD

Ryanair have added over 32 extra flights to cover the half term in October/November period
These include all the usual destinations served in the summer

32 extra purely from BOH, anymore details on which routes days etc Mark, any new/tester routes?

[MARKEYD]

TUI are continuing with Ibiza for 2020 but switched to a Saturday morning departure instead of Wednesday

This definitely now means 2 aircraft based for the weekend and hopefully filling in the Friday gap soon will take BOH to 2 aircraft for Fri- Sun

[shamrock7seal]

MARKEYD pls correct my errors... From what I can tell the following are additional:

Paphos Mon 28th Oct, Wed 30th Oct, Sat 2nd Nov, Mon 4th Nov
Prague Mon 28th Oct, Mon 4th Nov
Krakow Wed 30th Oct
Faro Tue 29th Oct, Sun 3rd Nov, Tue 5th Nov
Alicante Tue 29th Oct, Thu 31st Oct
Girona Mon 28th Oct, Wed 30th Oct, Fri 1st Nov, Sat 2nd Nov, Mon 4th Nov
Malaga Mon 28th Oct, Sat 2nd Nov, Sun 3rd Nov, Mon 4th Nov, Tue 5th Nov
Palma Sun 27th Oct, Mon 28th Oct, Tue 29th Oct, Wed 30th Oct, Thu 31st Oct, Fri 1st Nov, Sat 2nd Nov, Sun 3rd Nov, Mon 4th Nov, Tue 5th Nov

12,096 additional seats. Pretty impressive.

[MerchantVenturer]

Originally Posted by Sharklet_321

I would agree with a future Jet2 at BOH. Look at how they are competing successfully when head to head with Ryanair at other UK airports. So the presence of Ryanair at BOH probably doesn't bother them in the slightest. They may even see it as a positive to provide an alternative. However, Jet2 seems to go into bases in a big way and there just isn't the demand in the BOH catchment to do that. I would hazard a guess that if they do ever do BOH it would be a split base with EXT. Jet2 could also do very well from EXT and chip away at the easyJet/Ryanair BRS base.

I think that BRS has more to worry about at the moment than the thought of a Jet2 EXT base chipping away at the Lulsgate easyJet/Ryanair base, not that in normal circumstances it would be very concerned.

Currently BRS has a planning application with the local authority linked to an application to have its 10 mppa limit raised to 12 mppa (the airport says it will be over 9 mppa by the end of this year and 12 mppa by 2025). Until last month's local elections the local authority in which BRS sits was overwhelmingly Conservative and was likely to approve the applications. The Conservatives received a beating at the elections and the nucleus of the council now is Independent/Lib-Dem/ Green. I can't see these approving the applications which would no doubt mean an airport appeal to the Planning Inspectorate which could take up to a year for a final decision.

If BRS can't get its 10 mppa raised after it has exhausted all avenues it would be good news for the likes of CWL and EXT, and to a lesser extent for BOH and possibly SOU as well.

[Flitefone]

Originally Posted by MerchantVenturer

I think that BRS has more to worry about at the moment....
If BRS can't get its 10 mppa raised after it has exhausted all avenues it would be good news for the likes of CWL and EXT, and to a lesser extent for BOH and possibly SOU as well.

MV is spot on, BHX the likely the biggest beneficiary of delays st BRS not to mention the inevitable obstacles still facing LHR.

The future should be reasonably bright for the other airports in the Southwest and CWL.

FF

[Sharklet_321]

What is the 'Green' party policy on Regional Airports versus large hubs like LHR? If they are pro regionals due to less car traffic on the road then that could be an argument to lift the cap on BRS.

[FrequentlyFlying]

I think they will be against air travel expansion full stop to be honest. I am sure someone will be a GP member but from my experiences in Local Govt I would say awareness of climate issues ‘politically’ is at an all time high and I wouldn’t fancy any airports regional or city chances of getting any expansion through, without a strong national govt lead prepared to take that on in appeal,

Locally regardless of planners views or financial benefits being positive, politically it would be a huge benefit for a councillor or council leader to go with the public mood.... or they know they will be gone.

BOH are very lucky to have expansion built in on the airside already (FR legacy) and I am sure the access to and from can be suitably ‘greened up’ to get through. BRS vs Greens inroads I can’t see it happening. Bristol is getting greener than Brighton!

[LGS6753]

It's difficult to get one's head around the lunacy of the Greens. In their last election manifesto they promised continuous recession, because "growth is unsustainable". Millions of jobs would go, especially in aviation, car manufacturing, etc with the promise of more jobs in yoghurt knitting and wood whittling.

[Sharklet_321]

Very funny - couldn’t have said it better myself.

They have said said they want to stop brownfield site development for fear it would displace the wildlife that has adopted brownfield sites as home. Theirs is often an extremist viewpoint which is just as bad as all out growth with no regard for the environment.

[MARKEYD]

Anyone know what’s going on between the departure terminal and the arrivals hall . All the fences are down and it looks like a land fill , never seen such a mess

Shocking first impressions for anyone turning up for a flight

There is even a small clip on “ YouTube “ showing the state of it , very poor image

[yeo valley]

With fences down,would it mean high winds,or you not had high winds in BOH.

[Flitefone]

Originally Posted by yeo valley

With fences down,would it mean high winds,or you not had high winds in BOH.

It appears to be work in progress, clearing of the site looks intentional, as if for some kind of change. I had assumed relocation of the car rental offices or some such, as well as a possible undercover link between Departures and Arrivals.

time will tell

FF

[RuFFuS77]

The area has been used as dumping ground ever since MAG decided to save money by building a much smaller than planned arrivals hall. The history wall between the two buildings depicted the history of the airport including concord flights and Virgin Atlantic Global flyer, blew down many times, the last time being the winter just passed when it wasn't repaired. There are no plans in the pipeline to develop this site.

[FrequentlyFlying]

Prague & Dublin FR

Any info on how these are performing at BOH?

The Krakow Route seems to have established itself, just nice to see cities working from the often described ‘bucket and spade’ airport!

obviously we won’t know yields but early loads hopefully are good anyone? Would love a German City next!

[philip duncan]

Originally Posted by FrequentlyFlying

Any info on how these are performing at BOH?

The Krakow Route seems to have established itself, just nice to see cities working from the often described ‘bucket and spade’ airport!

obviously we won’t know yields but early loads hopefully are good anyone? Would love a German City next!

We travelled to Prague last month 16th May & returned on 19th flight was full both ways,
excellent service and good timings. Would be good to see Austria back again, Innsbruck was always a popular winter Ski flight and used it many times always full.

[shamrock7seal]

In the four times i've used the DUB service so far this year it's been 90-95% full

[Sharklet_321]

According to the local news online, Ryanair have added an 'extra weekly flight for W19/20 to Las Palmas' on Saturdays but I can only see one weekly flight on Saturdays on the website. Is this a new Winter service or a continuation or have the media got it wrong?

[Nakata77]

Re Gran Canaria, it's a continuation of Ryanairs previously summer only operation. This is great news! Ryanair seems to be slowly building back up their winter operation from Bournemouth.