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Old 14th Mar 2019, 20:18
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Originally Posted by Sharklet_321 View Post
Good news. Good to grow steadily and sustainably. Some of Europes main cities don't have 5 flights a week to ALC so great news that BOH is getting that level of frequency albeit July-Sept.

I just hope that 2020 brings the following: 1) a second based Ryanair jet, 2) a second based TUI jet, 3) a new Jet2 base with 1, 2 or 3 jets, 4) a new service to Amsterdam and Paris provided by anyone (easyJet?) with some codeshares available to connect onwards. 5) Orlando flights

Rigby are projecting 1,500,000 pax by 2023. If that is accurate then there should be significant growth between 2019 and '23.

My guesses to get to Rigby's expectation:

2019 800,000
2020 1,250,000 ??
2021 1,350,000 ??
2022 1,450,000 ??
2023 1,500,000
Contradiction slightly between your wish list and growing 'steadily and sustainably'. You must have been a nightmare at the pick n mix in Woolworths!

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Old 14th Mar 2019, 20:43
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Sorry my bad I meant to say ONE of the following!!!

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Old 14th Mar 2019, 20:46
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A lot more realistic!
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Old 15th Mar 2019, 09:33
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Thanks MARKEYD

On the negative side I am surprised that Malaga and Faro can't support more frequency in the winter and I am surprised that Girona (or Barcelona itself) doesn't seem to be returning in winter. A big proportion of Girona passengers originate in Spain and demand to this route was once very high, over 100,000 annually. Having said that, it seems that Ryanair have radically reduced their operation in Girona over the winter with hardly any services from there. This indicates it may not be a Bournemouth demand problem but rather an airport deal/relationship issue.

Bournemouth still has a lot of winter season gaps in the network that used to be operated for many years prior. These include Chambery, Innsbruck, Larnaca, Enfidha, Hurghada, Sharm El Sheikh, Funchal, Fuerteventura and more regular services to Barbados - nothing to do with Ryanair of course.

For summer, I think that Ryanair could easily revisit some of their previously operated services such as Frankfurt - remember Hahn used to be operated daily? There must be demand for a lower frequency service directly into Frankfurt rather than Hahn. Same could be said for Glasgow instead of Prestwick - which used to be operated double daily by 737-800!
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Old 18th Mar 2019, 12:05
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January passenger figures are finally out and Bournemouth handled 35 , 869 passengers up 14 % finally !!

A mixed bag of figures

Ryanairs routes to all of Spain and Krakow averaged the 80 % load

Geneva was slightly up on last year at 6360 averaging 138 pax per flight , 23 flights operated in January no diversions or cancellations

The 2 Barbados cruise flights operated at 291 pax for P&O and 300 pax for Hays on a TUI 787

The downsides were Turin at 381 pax , the route is canceled next year and Las Palmas showing only 621 pax with TUI ( not sure if that figure is correct, to be honest ) Lanzarote was also down again to about 119 pax per flight on TUI

Paphos with Ryanair was showing only 1605 pax use the service which averages out at 100 per flight , not good for Ryanair standard so it could be the reason its not bookable for next winter
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Old 18th Mar 2019, 14:15
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RYR January`19 systemwide load factor was 91%...
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Old 18th Mar 2019, 15:19
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Originally Posted by southside bobby View Post
RYR January`19 systemwide load factor was 91%...
Caution, Ryanair network wide report seats sold, not seats flown. With low fares, there is often a significant difference, with prospective passengers forgoing flights.

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Old 18th Mar 2019, 20:46
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Very concerning about Paphos but awareness is low given there doesn’t seem to be any promotion of this route at all. Not sure anyone knows about it all

BOH seems to be spending all their tweeting time on pushing the Channel Island flights
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Old 18th Mar 2019, 20:55
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If you check the fares for immediate travel BOH-PFO it’s only £14.99 one way for a four and a half hour flight!! This route is obviously not gonna stick around
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Old 19th Mar 2019, 11:06
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Originally Posted by shamrock7seal View Post
Having said that, it seems that Ryanair have radically reduced their operation in Girona over the winter with hardly any services from there. This indicates it may not be a Bournemouth demand problem but rather an airport deal/relationship issue.
But wasn't that in the days before Ryanair were servicing Barcelona direct ?
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Old 19th Mar 2019, 11:10
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Quick Q for those who know the airports. Friends kids flying into BOH on Sunday and need to get to SOU to link up with some others coming in on a later flight. They asked me best way of getting between the 2 airports without booking a taxi. Any suggestions ?
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Old 19th Mar 2019, 11:43
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Option 1

Wait for the bus to take you to Bmth Travel Interchange
Travel interchange is opposite the Train station
Train goes straight from Bmth to SOU

Option 2

Taxi from BOH to Travel interchange
Repeat steps above

Option 3

Hire a car (possibly cheaper than a taxi?)
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Old 19th Mar 2019, 13:40
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Given their funds ( they young) then bus and train seems best option.
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Old 19th Mar 2019, 14:37
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​​​​​​train or bus isnít cheap if added together x 2++ May well find a cheaper pre book cab if more than 2 from BoH to Sou. It often seems cheaper but it may well not be if it is more than 1!
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Old 19th Mar 2019, 20:50
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Originally Posted by FrequentlyFlying View Post
​​​​​​train or bus isnít cheap if added together x 2++ May well find a cheaper pre book cab if more than 2 from BoH to Sou. It often seems cheaper but it may well not be if it is more than 1!
Texted them that but they said Student railcards, buying in advance and picking a specific train brought it down to £5.50 pp from Bournemouth station to Southampton Parkway.
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Old 19th Mar 2019, 21:41
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Thatís a pretty good price!
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Old 19th Mar 2019, 22:28
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Excellent price - I used the train to commute from Bomo all the time and it was never cheap! Great deal and great news for them!
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Old 20th Mar 2019, 09:14
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Originally Posted by racedo View Post
Texted them that but they said Student railcards, buying in advance and picking a specific train brought it down to £5.50 pp from Bournemouth station to Southampton Parkway.
Before you think about getting a train on a Sunday check SWR for Engineering works and rail replacement buses on the Bomo line to SOU and Waterloo - as every weekend of late this has affected our trains here in Dorset and Hants.

You may find on reflection a booked Taxi maybe best...around £50 or so

There are hourly Nat Exp coaches from Bomo travel interchange (next to the rail station) to Southampton (cheap)

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Old 28th Mar 2019, 15:10
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Bournemouth handled 34 , 274 passengers in February up 8 %

Ryanair did well for all its routes especially the Alicante , Malaga and Krakow routes which all averaged 92 % loads
Paphos averaged only 128 pax per flight

TUI again had a drop in passengers using the Canaries with all averaging about 82 % loads, not sure what the reason is there

Geneva with Easy jet did really well again with 6691 passengers using the route averaging about 139 pax , the same as last year so definitely holding its own still

Barbados cruise charter saw a full flight of 298 on a TUI 787

TUI holidays seem to have taken off sale for Summer 20 Ibiza , Mahon , Naples and Antalya all of which are not bookable, i would question this as particularly IBZ and MAH have been stable destinations since they operated with Palmair . TUI are launching properly in April for next year so will have a better idea next month of what is happening
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Old 28th Mar 2019, 16:31
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There does seem to be a problem with the CAA stats for BOH at the moment. Up until recently, when I totalled the individual routes this total was usually within a hundred pax or so of the CAA Terminal & Transit Pax total (for June and September 2018 it was spot on!). However, for the past 4 months they have been way short so either there are a some routes missing, which seems unlikely, or some of the figures are too low, possibly those for the Canaries?
November 2018 2261 short
December 2018 4431 short
January 2019 2954 short
February 2019 1611 short

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