Bournemouth-4

[MARKEYD]

Originally Posted by PDXCWL45

To be fair to the poster but would Jet2 announce a new base via a site like TTG and he said Jet2 are releasing flights imminently so that could imply non based flights or possibly a charter for someone else.

Yep , fair point , it is a rumour network after all !!

[Flitefone]

Originally Posted by MARKEYD

Bit to keen , and jumping the gun to be making comments like that on numerous threads in the first place with no credible source it would seem

To be fair, Jet2 (Steve Lee of Jet2 - who would know) hinted at flying from BOH in an article published by Travel Weekly about 6 months ago, when it referred, with a metaphorical twinkle in the eye, to the possibility of returning to the airline's roots on the south coast (the Channel Express operation from Hurn).

http://www.travelweekly.co.uk/articl...ars-of-jet2com

Jet2 also said this about airport capacity (published by Flight) in July 2017:

Slot restrictions at London's airports have created an "interesting challenge" for Jet2 to expand in southeast England, the airline's head of regulation, compliance and resilience Andy Cooper has acknowledged.

Speaking at an Airlines UK seminar in London today, Cooper said that achieving two rotations a day was an increasingly difficult task for the leisure carrier as it required "two fundamentals: a slot-one departure time and almost certainly a late returning on your second rotation".

Cooper says there is "absolutely no chance" of getting this arrangement at London Heathrow as that airport is "full all day". At Gatwick, there was "no real practical chance of trying to get out on an early departure". Meanwhile, it is "not particularly practical" to operate from London City, and Luton "suffers from terminal constraints to some extent", he says.

This leaves Stansted as "probably the only real option in the southeast of England to actually grow as a point of departure for any UK-based carrier", Cooper argues. Leeds-based Jet2 entered the London market this spring when it opened a base at Stansted.

Cooper also warns of the potential impact on Jet2's operations of a current consultation on night flights at London's airports.

"At the moment, none of us have any idea of what the new [night flights] regime is going to look like,” he says. "So we have this strange situation of selling a [flight] programme without being absolutely certain we can operate them. We are relying on the fact that common sense will prevail"

Looking at the airline's past base and route press releases, new UK bases seem to be announced 5-9 months ahead of opening, whereas new routes from existing bases are released with a longer timeframe typically 9-12 months out.

So, that Jet2 will continue to expand is not really in doubt, read their company reports. That any new base will be south of Birmingham is also pretty clear. They are already established pretty much everywhere else. Of those southern airports potentially available, the airline seems to have ruled out LHR, LTN and LGW in the southeast. We know they are all full at peak times anyway. Beyond that, there are not too many airports in southern England (and Wales) with the runway length and slot capacity to cope with a full B738 to just about any of the Jet2 destinations... BRS, CWL, BOH, EXT, NQY. Then there is demand and competition to think about.

LCY, SOU and SEN are ruled out for the 738 on runway length and/or overnight aircraft parking availability.

If there is to be any announcement, using past precedent it should be timed no later than about end September this year for summer 2019, or by end of this June for the winter 18/19 timetable. So lets see what the next few weeks brings! It is at least an interesting rumour..

FF

[pug]

Nothing in that article suggests that Bournemouth is on the radar. That was the opinion of the author, nothing more.

[stewyb]

Originally Posted by pug

Nothing in that article suggests that Bournemouth is on the radar. That was the opinion of the author, nothing more.

i think you can all stand down for the time being, at least where a new jet2 base is concerned. Best hope would be for 1 or 2 non based routes although jet2 don't seem to operate this model!

[Plane.Silly]

Originally Posted by stewyb

i think you can all stand down for the time being, at least where a new jet2 base is concerned. Best hope would be for 1 or 2 non based routes although jet2 don't seem to operate this model!

Agreed. If they wanted to move in, they would have probably done it when BOH was under MAG ownership, since LS have big bases at these other airports.

[Dropoffcharge]

Maybe a good time for the new owners to look at the current drop off fee, to try and rebuild a few bridges with the locals, what with SOU upping there's recently and getting a slating in the press. Seems the BOMO site outside of the airport was also vandalised recently with some cars being damaged.

[MARKEYD]

Its a business now I am afraid , that has to make money , in order for the airport to survive in the winter as still very few flights going through it

The car park is a disgrace though , it really needs paving all over , not having sand / gravel to park on and not even a bus to pick you up at the far end , in the wilderness
A cheap metal multi story car park would have been the best alternative years ago when MAG were building the terminal

[Badgermanuk]

Originally Posted by Knife-Edge

They are £30 for a week, I have just booked. They should see a nice increase in business.

or maybe not..speaking as one who got their fingers burnt on this one
Unofficial Car Park firm shuts suddenly

[Knife-Edge]

Oh dear! Back to Hobson’s choice for parking and no competition, which is never a healthy situation.
I am booked in with them for next week, thankfully paid for on a credit card.

[MARKEYD]

Very late in the day for April passenger figures I am afraid

Bournemouth handled 64 , 431 passengers up 2 %

Ryanair started their summer schedule with loads in the 90 % on pretty much most of their flights

TUI as usual in the high 95 % figures

Easy Jet finished Geneva with 3956 passengers using the service finishing in mid April and loads roughly worked out at 132 pax

Southampton saw 2997 passengers between Flybe and Easy jet
Flybe 65 pax per flight then Easy 109 pax per flight
Flybe 75 pax per flight then Easy 100 pax per flight

Otherwise nothing much going on again , very quiet for the summer

[The Nutts Mutts]

Now that the CAA figures are in for the winter 17/18 season it's possible to get an idea of how EZY starting SOU flights has impacted the south coast market.

In Winter 16/17 (Dec-Apr ski season) SOU-GVA attracted 5858 pax, all of them on Flybe. In winter 17/18, this became 20397 pax between EZY and Flybe (up 14539, 348%).

In 16/17 BOH-GVA saw 33273 pax, all flying EZY. In 17/18 this route got 28986 pax (down 4287, 13%)

The total number of BOH & SOU pax in 16/17 was 39131 giving SOU a 15% market share and BOH 85%. In 17/18 49383 pax were carried from the two south coast airports, with SOU having a 40% share, BOH 60%.

Looking at that, it would appear that while Bournemouth's figures were obviously affected by the start of the EZY route from SOU, their passenger numbers haven't been cannibalised too much. Instead EZY seem to have stimulated demand from SOU itself and possibly stopped some leakage to LHR and LGW. Flybe pax numbers on the Geneva route were up 21% year on year, so they have seen a benefit too. The market has grown in size with SOU taking a bigger share than before. It will be interesting to see what happens this coming winter.

EZY average pax from SOU for April were 118 per flight, the Flybe loads dropped off towards the end of the season.

[MARKEYD]

Ryanair have added an extra flight this winter throughout the season to Alicante making a total of 3 services a week
Although it might not sound big news it's good news for the airport with a few more passengers added to the winter schedule taking in the new route with Ryanair to Paphos that's an extra 3 flights more than last year

Supebreak have upgraded there flights to Iceland , was a Titan 737 now it's an A321 this winter

Newmarket are returning next summer operating a charter to Bergamo using Albastar

[FrequentlyFlying]

There also appear to be 4 flights end Dec and beginning of Jan scheduled and loaded and not available.to book just yet. Excellent news.

[Buster the Bear]

I was told earlier this week that Bournemouth will become a Jet2 based for Summer 2019, if they can find additional used 737-800 airframes.

[adfly]

If true that could really shake things up for BOH! Looking at their other bases I would guess they would want to base 2-3 aircraft, as they have never really done single aircraft bases in the way that TUI and Ryanair seem happy to (even Blackpool was 2-3 aircraft when they flew from there).

[FrequentlyFlying]

Cheers ‘Buster’ that would really take the Southern pressure off and reliance on the new(ish) Stansted bass - if as adfly suggests they tend to go for 2-3 planes that is a mass of destinations - it’s also is a big statement - we will have to keep fingers crossed his happens / they get options on planes secured as summer 19 is already well and truly alive they will be missing their own boat.

[Flitefone]

Based on past precedent, a September announcement for the following summer would fit. I continue to think it likely (see my post #262). There is just not enough summer runway/aircraft parking capacity available elsewhere in the southeast.

FF

[shamrock7seal]

If it doesn't happen it will more than likely be caused by a lack of pilots rather than a lack of aircraft which are quite easy to source.

[MARKEYD]

Bournemouth handled 74 , 870 passengers in June , down 2 % due solely to the loss of 1 Las Palmas service operated by Ryanair . Other wise it was static basically as has been for several years now

All TUI flights operated out about 98 % full with Naples doing very well and as was the Dalaman service operated by Freebird A320

Ryanair had good loads although several flights were cancelled due to French ATC

[shamrock7seal]

Good result considering the weather. If loads are robust during so much uncertainty (economic conditions, world cup, brexsh*t) it shows that there is a strengthening foundation from which BOH traffic can really be built upon.

What's interesting is that SOU was showing a much sharper fall in both Flights (down 15%) and Pax (down 5.5%) even KLM has reduced frequency from double daily to single daily between July-Sep. Odd considering the route would be ideal for inbound tourism during those months if fares were reasonable - which they're not.