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Having flown GLA-SEN with Loganair this week I'd disagree. Southend Airport to Stratford in 45 minutes connecting to Jubille, Central and DLR was great or another 8 minutes into Liverpool Street. Took less than 5 minutes to get from my seat on the plane to the train station. I'd pick flying here over Heathrow, Gatwick and Stansted for getting to Central London. Only one that I would prefer would be City but that is either full or at a premium if booking alst minute!
If they had express trains... now that would be transformational.
If they had express trains... now that would be transformational.
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In what regard? The purpose of a PSO route is not to give local punters access to cheap Ryanair flights at STN as nothing is to be gained for the public by that. It is to connect the capital or major cities to a remote part of the country to primarily make travel for business, government, medical or educational purposes easier.
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The thing STN has over SEN is it’s convenience for Cambridge. I’m not sure what academic, business or cultural ties there are between Derry and Cambridge but I assume they are insufficient to warrant particular concern about this switch.
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Having flown GLA-SEN with Loganair this week I'd disagree. Southend Airport to Stratford in 45 minutes connecting to Jubille, Central and DLR was great or another 8 minutes into Liverpool Street. Took less than 5 minutes to get from my seat on the plane to the train station. I'd pick flying here over Heathrow, Gatwick and Stansted for getting to Central London. Only one that I would prefer would be City but that is either full or at a premium if booking alst minute!
If they had express trains... now that would be transformational.
If they had express trains... now that would be transformational.
sorry but this tiny airport does not compare with Stansted. It is a downgrade.
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It may be a Downgrade for you. Either way it’s only 50 minutes in a train, which won’t wouldn’t sway the opinions of the masses.
I doubt SEN could match the experiences I’ve had trying to get through security at the “superior” Stansted. Stansted stopped being fit for purpose years ago. As for the Stansted Express. Also a tired, unreliable service. Owen’s either trolling (as usual) or has been at the glue. Either way, anyone who has had the “pleasure” of using Stansted recently will be very pleasantly surprised by SEN.
Owen, anyone who has read your contributions on this particular thread over the last 12-18 months will have noticed your contrary tone. Off the top of my head:
- You won’t be flying Flybmi as the planes are too small.
- There are no English tourists in Derry.
- Loganair fairs are too expensive.
- There’s a mystical walk-up first class rail ticket on a train in England which costs a tenner.
- Stansted is better than Southend.
Finally, before I hit the sack after a long day’s work, glue is not an illegal substance.
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My last experience at Stansted was crammed train, lengthy queues, shuttle to the ‘other’ gates. All took a long time, if travelling for work (99% of the time to London) I don’t care about a choice of 20 restaurants and snaking around duty free etc.
Whilst The trains were old I found them to be perfectly comfortable (don’t recall the Stansted Express being very ‘Heathrow Express’ either). I did enjoy my single leather seat on Loganair compared to the easyJet offering to Stansted though!
The existing rolling stock on the Liverpool Street-SEN line is about to be replaced by brand new carriages which include space for underseat baggage stowage. I am not certain of the timing of the upgrade but it is said to be before the end of the year.
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Owen, anyone who has read your contributions on this particular thread over the last 12-18 months will have noticed your contrary tone. Off the top of my head:
- You won’t be flying Flybmi as the planes are too small.
- There are no English tourists in Derry.
- Loganair fairs are too expensive.
- There’s a mystical walk-up first class rail ticket on a train in England which costs a tenner.
- Stansted is better than Southend.
Finally, before I hit the sack after a long day’s work, glue is not an illegal substance.
I just recently went from London to Birmingham for £22 with Virgin, I also booked £10-£18 from Norwich to London many, many times.
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CAA stats for July 2019:
LDY movements:
895 (2019) = +13%
792 (2018)
Passenger Numbers:
19,281 (2019) = +5%
18,288 (2018)
Passengers per route:
- GLASGOW = 1403 = -82%
- LIVERPOOL = 4514 = +1%
- LONDON (STN) = 4819 = +4%
- EDINBURGH = 6780 = -12% When compared to GLA from JUL18.
- MANCHESTER = 1790 = (NEW)
Load Factors:
- GLASGOW = 68%
- LIVERPOOL = 92%
- LONDON (STN) = 85%
- EDINBURGH = 85%
- MANCHESTER = 59%
Year Rolling:
Passengers: 188,317
LDY movements:
895 (2019) = +13%
792 (2018)
Passenger Numbers:
19,281 (2019) = +5%
18,288 (2018)
Passengers per route:
- GLASGOW = 1403 = -82%
- LIVERPOOL = 4514 = +1%
- LONDON (STN) = 4819 = +4%
- EDINBURGH = 6780 = -12% When compared to GLA from JUL18.
- MANCHESTER = 1790 = (NEW)
Load Factors:
- GLASGOW = 68%
- LIVERPOOL = 92%
- LONDON (STN) = 85%
- EDINBURGH = 85%
- MANCHESTER = 59%
Year Rolling:
Passengers: 188,317
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Winter 2019/2020 Provisional Schedule as of 27/08/19.
Loganair
GLA - 4 Weekly. (3x SF3, 1x ER4)
MAN - 5 Weekly. (ER4)
SEN - 13 Weekly. (ER4)
Ryanair
EDI - 5 Weekly. (738)
LPL - 4 Weekly. (738)
This gives an average of 31 departures per week, An extra four on last year. This is an average of just over 4 per day.
Loganair
GLA - 4 Weekly. (3x SF3, 1x ER4)
MAN - 5 Weekly. (ER4)
SEN - 13 Weekly. (ER4)
Ryanair
EDI - 5 Weekly. (738)
LPL - 4 Weekly. (738)
This gives an average of 31 departures per week, An extra four on last year. This is an average of just over 4 per day.
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Summer 2020 Schedules as of 15/09/2019. SEN will see a seasonal increase to 16x Weekly with extra flights FRI-SUN. MAN will be operated by a NWI based frame on FRI/SUN and GLA will return to being operated by the LDY based frame with the exception of SUN. GLA's SAT flight will also not return for S2020. Still EDI/LPL to be added all being well.
(Ignore the B738/RYR and EDI/LPL frequencies, they were simply left over from prior placeholders)
Last edited by Fly757X; 15th Sep 2019 at 21:24.
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MAN on Tuesdays/Wednesdays are showing as "Sold Out" for the entirety of the coming winter season so one must presume that it's been reduced to 3 Weekly now or there has been some form of glitch.
