Derry/Londonderry 2

[Amelia Earhart]

From the Loganair interview in the Journal, it appears the timescale for any further expansion is next year but it would also appear contingent on Loganair getting the Stansted PSO after the current interim contract ends. On the other hand is any other operator likely to be competing for it?

[BAladdy]

Originally Posted by Amelia Earhart

From the Loganair interview in the Journal, it appears the timescale for any further expansion is next year but it would also appear contingent on Loganair getting the Stansted PSO after the current interim contract ends. On the other hand is any other operator likely to be competing for it?

When does the interim contract expire?.

[Amelia Earhart]

The interim contract is limited by law to 7 months. It started at the beginning of March so terminates at the end of September.

[Fly757X]

CAA stats for March 2019:

LDY movements:

478 (2019) = -24%

629 (2018)

Passenger Numbers:

16,719 (2019) = +5.3%

15,884 (2018)

Passengers per route:

- GLASGOW = 1049 = -83%
- LIVERPOOL = 5808 = +2%
- LONDON (STN) = 3,094 = -20%
- EDINBURGH = 6755 = +8.7% When compared to GLA from MAR18.

Load Factors:

- GLASGOW = 57%
- LIVERPOOL = 85%
- LONDON (STN) = 55%
- EDINBURGH = 77%


Year Rolling:

Passengers: 185,507

[Fly757X]

First LM584 is due to leave in 2 mins to MAN.

[scodaman]

Any word on the LF for the Manchester flights so far?

[Fly757X]

Originally Posted by scodaman

Any word on the LF for the Manchester flights so far?

They look really good, 44 outbound on Friday, Full inbound and 46 outbound today.

[Fly757X]

CoDA has been shortlisted for two awards...

https://www.aviationawards.ie/shortlist

[Danmadole]

I hear the stranded BMi Embraer was fired up yesterday. Departure imminent?

[Fly757X]

CAA stats for April 2019:

LDY movements:

462 (2019) = -15%

543 (2018)

Passenger Numbers:

15,887 (2019) = +6%

14,988 (2018)

Passengers per route:

- GLASGOW = 1128 = -84%
- LIVERPOOL = 4469 = +14%
- LONDON (STN) = 3713 = -9%
- EDINBURGH = 6574 = -5% When compared to GLA from APR18.

Load Factors:

- GLASGOW = 59%
- LIVERPOOL = 91%
- LONDON (STN) = 69%
- EDINBURGH = 83%


Year Rolling:

Passengers: 186,406

[scodaman]

Originally Posted by Danmadole

I hear the stranded BMi Embraer was fired up yesterday. Departure imminent?

I was down on Sunday morning leaving the other half off for a Loganair flight to STN and it was still there, took a few shots on my phone. Went down tonight Wednesday to lift the other half and it is not in same spot, it may have been moved or maybe Discovery Channel Airplane Repo came along and got it. I live near City of Derry and will check again tomorrow. It has been moved a few times since Feb.

[speedbirdATC]

Originally Posted by scodaman

I was down on Sunday morning leaving the other half off for a Loganair flight to STN and it was still there, took a few shots on my phone. Went down tonight Wednesday to lift the other half and it is not in same spot, it may have been moved or maybe Discovery Channel Airplane Repo came along and got it. I live near City of Derry and will check again tomorrow. It has been moved a few times since Feb.

G-RJXB departed for NWI yesterday.

[scodaman]

Originally Posted by scodaman

I was down on Sunday morning leaving the other half off for a Loganair flight to STN and it was still there, took a few shots on my phone. Went down tonight Wednesday to lift the other half and it is not in same spot, it may have been moved or maybe Discovery Channel Airplane Repo came along and got it. I live near City of Derry and will check again tomorrow. It has been moved a few times since Feb.

And to quote my own post, I've since found out that it has indeed gone and has left LDY for Norwich, more info on the Loganair thread.

[Sharklet_321]

Fly757X Those load factors just go to show that the success in this industry when it comes to smaller airports is with the low cost carriers. I am not sure the thinner routes can survive unless perpetually supported by PSO

[Fly757X]

Originally Posted by Sharklet_321

Fly757X Those load factors just go to show that the success in this industry when it comes to smaller airports is with the low cost carriers. I am not sure the thinner routes can survive unless perpetually supported by PSO

I think it's more just the broad set up of those routes. Glasgow's times are far from ideal at present for the locals who would use the service if there was an early flight on a Monday for instance. They're also pushed away by the fact it's a SF34. Absolutely nothing wrong with the SF34s in my eyes but it's part of a wider attitude here that has came to be over the last few years that it's either Ryanair... or go to Belfast. MAN has seen impressive loads, roughly 5 empty seats a flight albeit prices are relatively low for LM, coming in around £80-100 a week in advance. STN is starting to normalise again after BM's collapse. EDI is starting to do a bit better too but it can vary dramatically week on week. I believe that if LM tweaked GLA a bit, maybe extra or earlier flights on MON/FRI/SUN and some days being upgauged to an ER4, it would certainly help reduce the Nativity of the public in the city when it comes to Aviation, specifically "buses with wings" and "those wee things."

[db7]

Loganair seem to trying to rationalise their use of airframes at LDY. The GLA timetable has changed. Seems they are now trying to use the one plane to do LDY-STN-LDY-MAN-LDY-GLA-LDY-STN-LDY If it works excellent utilisation - just hope they have a backup plan.

Perhaps the 14.40 departure and the EMB will be more popular at least it connects with the evening flights out of GLA - all we need now is a BA/? codeshare

[cuthere]

That would be excellent utilisation, though during the winter months, could lead to chaos.

[BAladdy]

Originally Posted by cuthere

That would be excellent utilisation, though during the winter months, could lead to chaos.

GLA will be op by the LDY based aircraft from the 1st of July to 25th October.

The schedule loaded from the start of the winter schedule shows that the flights will be operated by a GLA based aircraft. The frequency does however seem to have been reduced to 5 x weekly for next winter. With no flight available to book on a Wednesday and Saturday

[Fly757X]

Strange to see it's also been reduced mid season. SAT/SUN stays the same.

[Fly757X]

CAA stats for May 2019:

LDY movements:

679 (2019) = +10%

618 (2018)

Passenger Numbers:

15,341 (2019) = -1%

15,541 (2018)

Passengers per route:

- GLASGOW = 1213 = -83%
- LIVERPOOL = 4122 = -8%
- LONDON (STN) = 3703 = -5%
- EDINBURGH = 5948 = -17% When compared to GLA from APR18.
- MANCHESTER = 417 = (NEW)

Load Factors:

- GLASGOW = 63%
- LIVERPOOL = 84%
- LONDON (STN) = 65%
- EDINBURGH = 72%
- MANCHESTER = 61%


Year Rolling:

Passengers: 186,206