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Old 21st Feb 2019, 17:20
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The collapse of BMI has tuned out to be a blessing for Derry in some ways. They now have a Manchester route out of it... wishing all of those who lost their jobs safe times and hope they find employment soon.
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Old 21st Feb 2019, 17:26
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Originally Posted by jamessh
The collapse of BMI has tuned out to be a blessing for Derry in some ways. They now have a Manchester route out of it... wishing all of those who lost their jobs safe times and hope they find employment soon.
A Manchester route was supposed to be announced and fully confirmed today actually with BMI.

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Old 21st Feb 2019, 17:34
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Originally Posted by Fly757X
A Manchester route was supposed to be announced today actually with BMI.
I’ve been mistaken then. I didn’t know the route was confirmed, thought it was just speculation. I’m much happier with the fares from Loganair. Returns all seem to be fixed at £80. Fair price in my opinion and much better than BMI...
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Old 21st Feb 2019, 17:39
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Hahahaha....just wait till some start selling.......it may well be a fair price in your opinion but it's one that is well below cost and just not viable in any great volume.
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Old 21st Feb 2019, 17:41
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If they fill seats it will be profitable.
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Old 21st Feb 2019, 17:59
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Originally Posted by TartinTon
Hahahaha....just wait till some start selling.......it may well be a fair price in your opinion but it's one that is well below cost and just not viable in any great volume.
Remember the route attracts subsidy.
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Old 21st Feb 2019, 18:09
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He’s taking about Manchester I believe, which is an non-subsidised route.
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Old 21st Feb 2019, 18:23
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Originally Posted by cuthere
He’s taking about Manchester I believe, which is an non-subsidised route.
Got confused with the 'much happier with Loganair fares' bit, as bmi never announced MAN unless I'm mistaken
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Old 21st Feb 2019, 19:48
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They said they intended to launch it, but yes, they never got to the point where it was loaded and prices available.
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Old 21st Feb 2019, 19:52
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39.99 out
Ranging to 50£ back

Settle for that
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Old 25th Feb 2019, 22:00
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Flybmi collapse a 'missed opportunity' for airport exit

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-no...-west-47362766

Close the airport? And then what? What is the vision? How do you promote the economy? Just move everything else to Belfast? Allow decades of discrimination to finally win? Just erect the white flag?

Belfast is subsidized each year to the tune of £1 billion extra out of the £10 billion budget. £2 million is nothing! Streetseeepong costs more!

With political representation like that, who needs the faceless men in Belfast?
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Old 25th Feb 2019, 22:20
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Agreed Amelia. This guy is utterly disconnected. Is he going to click his fingers and find jobs for those who would be out of a job should the airport close? Will the finger clicking also suddenly build proper roads to Belfast and Dublin, as well as a proper train service to both cities? It’s clear that if one of the tightest, austerity-loving governments in modern history is happy to fund the PSO, then one of two things is true: either the PSO is necessary after passing relevant financial tests; or, and this in my mind is most likely, the funding is a sop to keep themmuns quiet about being stiffed in every other way.
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Old 25th Feb 2019, 22:46
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The PSO isn't even Stormont money, it is Westminster funding. The councillor is complaining about local council funding, the annual £2 million, but he represents Strabane so his constituents are only paying a fraction of the subvention and they have only just started since the super councils a few years ago.

He has previously stated it should be Stormont funding rather than local government funding and he is right about that but calling for the airport's closure is a failure to understand the greater economic benefits plus the status of a city having an airport. We'd be the only city in Ireland without one. You'd literally be wiping yourself off the map.

The real problem isn't having an airport, it is not having a university, decentralisation and a fair share of inward investment. The airport doesn't work because the economy doesn't work. For a local councillor to state the airport is doomed to failure would imply he sees no economic progress at any time in the future. Rather than calling for the airport's closure, what is he doing about the economy and the discrimination/Belfast centric government policies.
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Old 25th Feb 2019, 22:53
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Indeed. But then, if I represented Strabane, then I too would have abandoned all hope years ago (Just kidding Strabanistas! Your Caffè Nero is lovely!).

Joking aside, completely agree Amelia. All very sad and disheartening. Let’s hope CoDA can prove the naysayers utterly wrong.
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Old 26th Feb 2019, 11:42
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Originally Posted by mart901
Remember the route attracts subsidy.
While MAN doesn't attract subsidy, the STN PSO is likely to have covered all the fixed costs of operating the aircraft (lease rental, crews etc) so as long as the MAN route doesn't need more crew, then it only has to cover its marginal costs (fuel, landing fees, ATC, crew duty pay, and incremental maintenance costs) - it's effectively a "free" aircraft so that certainly would improve the economics (unless the PSO authority is clawing back some of the funding, and there has been no mention of that).
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Old 26th Feb 2019, 13:58
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G-RJXI has positioned in from BRS. I assume it’ll be doing LDY-STN from tomorrow. Also, it was mentioned at a council meeting last night that LM sold 300 flights in the 30 minutes after they put tickets for the route on sale.
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Old 26th Feb 2019, 17:03
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Is that high demand?
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Old 26th Feb 2019, 18:40
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What’s your opinion on the matter, Owen? Do you think it’s high demand?
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Old 26th Feb 2019, 19:46
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I asked you
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Old 26th Feb 2019, 21:58
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Originally Posted by cuthere
G-RJXI has positioned in from BRS. I assume it’ll be doing LDY-STN from tomorrow. Also, it was mentioned at a council meeting last night that LM sold 300 flights in the 30 minutes after they put tickets for the route on sale.
No doubt the poor sods who were already booked on Flybmi and who have lost their money.......
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