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If Loganair are awarded the contract, then it wouldn’t surprise me if they decide not to go ahead with a new route to MAN and instead decide to use the aircraft to operate LDY-STN-LDY-GLA-LDY-STN-LDY.
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I personally doubt they would do that, MAN is a very important destination for Loganair, even till today. Also the fact that they’re establishing a base here to obviously continue a route, but I doubt they would see it as a way to free up capacity at GLA.
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Moving away from Belfast airports/ roads. I think this could all be good News for LDY, with new bases coming online including EMA and BRS Loganair could make something of LDY. yes many will say never going to happen but think about it logically.
GLA is already proving popular.
STN is funded and clear demand
MAN is a huge airport and already had 3 Belfast airlines operating to it and Loganair has plenty of codeshares unlike EZY and FR and if things go ahead with VS/BE you will no doubt see a reduction in frequency to MAN however it may be on slightly larger aircraft than the dash
EMA has up to 4 daily flight from BHD with strong load factors and I’m sure pull passengers in from the north
BRS again a very strong route for EZY with very good loads
EMA/BRS to become new bases which may be able to slot LDY into the schedule
or possible 2 based aircraft at LDY doing all the above routes
GLA is already proving popular.
STN is funded and clear demand
MAN is a huge airport and already had 3 Belfast airlines operating to it and Loganair has plenty of codeshares unlike EZY and FR and if things go ahead with VS/BE you will no doubt see a reduction in frequency to MAN however it may be on slightly larger aircraft than the dash
EMA has up to 4 daily flight from BHD with strong load factors and I’m sure pull passengers in from the north
BRS again a very strong route for EZY with very good loads
EMA/BRS to become new bases which may be able to slot LDY into the schedule
or possible 2 based aircraft at LDY doing all the above routes
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There’s a point being missed here. Flybmi and Loganair have the same dna. Assets were transferred to Loganair so they could wind up Flybmi without leaving anything for creditors. Loganair then take up the profitable carcass structure. The emphasis on profitable. Perhaps if they can get away with it the STN will go to a Saab 2000 which might cover GLA but if a 135/45 that’s unlikely. Manchester is another matter. It wasn’t a developed route and I’m not seeing Loganair taking any leaps of faith on the old Bmi stuff. Logan management aren’t bad so if there’s feasibility they will look at it in time. Just a pity the group owners are a bunch of sharks.
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Husky One, I'm pretty sure when BMI Regional was bought from British Airways that the owned aircraft were sold and leased back to the owners, now morphed in AIL, in exchange for a cash injection. So the emb jets are owned, but probably not an asset of flyBMI. So its in AIL's interest to place those aircraft with Loganair so they're still earning their keep.
Also Loganair I beleive have been saying that the emb145s are cheaper to run when maintenance is factored in, than the Saab 2000s. If the flyBMI crew take up Loganair's offer of employment then they could back up and running quickly.
The Loganair thread noted that Loganair were paying for flyBMI's HR dept to continue the training records service allowing ex staff to get their records to another employer, which would help that transfer of staff.
Also Loganair I beleive have been saying that the emb145s are cheaper to run when maintenance is factored in, than the Saab 2000s. If the flyBMI crew take up Loganair's offer of employment then they could back up and running quickly.
The Loganair thread noted that Loganair were paying for flyBMI's HR dept to continue the training records service allowing ex staff to get their records to another employer, which would help that transfer of staff.
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AIL leasing is owned by the Bond group. Bond group own Flybmi and Loganair. It’s pretty obvious the aircraft were going to end up in Loganair. I’d wager that Flybmi’s future was sealed when Loganair took its first 135. The Embraer spares inventory was reportedly transferred from Flybmi to Loganair several days before the company went bust. There are few coincidences in aviation.
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But wasn't there decentralisation to Ballykelly? 600 promised jobs turned into 200 and in the meantime even more jobs at HMRC and the electoral office were centralised. More have been centralised than decentralised!
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