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Whilst I agree that EZY would be loathe to dilute their BFS ops, they have complained in the recent past that BFS is at capacity (wrt the terminal). Essentially being paid to do STN from LDY may just about prove an attractive addition in that context. Add the brand recognition locally (something Flybmi didn’t really have), and it could work.
I doubt it mind, but one never knows.
I doubt it mind, but one never knows.
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Don't PSO services come with some serious operational constraints stipulated in the contract that are quite impractical for LCCs (e.g. where the aircraft has to be based, what and what not it is allowed to do in-between flights etc.)?
Yeah, that was the case previously. The most recent PSO allowed for the aircraft to be utilised at other times. Hence the intention from Flybmi to have introduced MAN this summer.
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Sure. But easyJet, for example, would only be interested in something like STN-LDY-STN-XXX-STN-XXX-STN-LDY-STN (and the "XXX" probably destinations rather far away on the continent give the short sector time for the LDY rotations). That is, of course, unless they get enough money from the public that they will happily ruin the utilization of the aircraft.
Is a requirement in the tender (could not find it on the internet) that, for example, standard luggage must be included in the air fare? Or any other "frills"?
Is a requirement in the tender (could not find it on the internet) that, for example, standard luggage must be included in the air fare? Or any other "frills"?
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Sure. But easyJet, for example, would only be interested in something like STN-LDY-STN-XXX-STN-XXX-STN-LDY-STN (and the "XXX" probably destinations rather far away on the continent give the short sector time for the LDY rotations). That is, of course, unless they get enough money from the public that they will happily ruin the utilization of the aircraft.
Is a requirement in the tender (could not find it on the internet) that, for example, standard luggage must be included in the air fare? Or any other "frills"?
Is a requirement in the tender (could not find it on the internet) that, for example, standard luggage must be included in the air fare? Or any other "frills"?
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Looks like Loganair may be getting Derry - STN flights.
Link below borrowed from Loganair thread, they've released a pilot recruitment pdf in which they say they are taking over flights from Flybmi and state they have a 'base' in Derry.
https://www.loganair.co.uk/wp-conten...info-pack1.pdf
Link below borrowed from Loganair thread, they've released a pilot recruitment pdf in which they say they are taking over flights from Flybmi and state they have a 'base' in Derry.
https://www.loganair.co.uk/wp-conten...info-pack1.pdf
I've never been disappointed flying with Loganair. Jets aren't fast enough to negate the extra driving.
Routes from regional airports like LDY are very much use it or lose it. Sounds like you are happy to lose it.
Routes from regional airports like LDY are very much use it or lose it. Sounds like you are happy to lose it.
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Google Maps distance from Foyleside Shopping Centre to BFS (58.7miles) and to BHD (74.8miles)
39 Airporter bus services a day from Londonderry to BFS/BHD
London services 22nd February
BHD-LHR British Airways x4
BHD-LHR Aer Lingus x3
BHD-LCY Flybe x6
BFS-STN Ryanair x3
BFS-STN Easyjet x6
BFS-LTN Easyjet x4
BFS-LGW Easyjet x7
Total 33
Yes folks 33 flights a day to London from Belfast, a superb privately run bus service linking the walled city with BFS and BHD, yet the folk West of the Bann get a massive bung from Government to keep
a service with less than 100 seats a day! Yet no Toronto, New York, Frankfurt, Munich, Copenhagen or Middle East Hub! Surely
better to spend the money on getting these services or better still drop APD so Ryanair could come back to LDY and give the Derry punters what they want. A good cheap reliable service.
Tin hat on awaiting incoming
39 Airporter bus services a day from Londonderry to BFS/BHD
London services 22nd February
BHD-LHR British Airways x4
BHD-LHR Aer Lingus x3
BHD-LCY Flybe x6
BFS-STN Ryanair x3
BFS-STN Easyjet x6
BFS-LTN Easyjet x4
BFS-LGW Easyjet x7
Total 33
Yes folks 33 flights a day to London from Belfast, a superb privately run bus service linking the walled city with BFS and BHD, yet the folk West of the Bann get a massive bung from Government to keep
a service with less than 100 seats a day! Yet no Toronto, New York, Frankfurt, Munich, Copenhagen or Middle East Hub! Surely
better to spend the money on getting these services or better still drop APD so Ryanair could come back to LDY and give the Derry punters what they want. A good cheap reliable service.
Tin hat on awaiting incoming
Airporter is indeed a local success story. The management at BFS could learn a thing or two from them. I do have two minor gripes about their offering: 1) their buses are tiny, and 2) £30 rtn is a bit steep.
Anyway. LDY serves a broader catchment than the city of Derry. A lot of users come from Donegal. And, as I’m sure you’re aware from your frequent trips to Derry, the road remains a disgrace, regardless of what Google suggests. BHD is likely a lot handier to access for the majority of the population of Belfast. Should we close Aldergrove as a result?
Anyway. LDY serves a broader catchment than the city of Derry. A lot of users come from Donegal. And, as I’m sure you’re aware from your frequent trips to Derry, the road remains a disgrace, regardless of what Google suggests. BHD is likely a lot handier to access for the majority of the population of Belfast. Should we close Aldergrove as a result?
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Airporter is indeed a local success story. The management at BFS could learn a thing or two from them. I do have two minor gripes about their offering: 1) their buses are tiny, and 2) £30 rtn is a bit steep.
Anyway. LDY serves a broader catchment than the city of Derry. A lot of users come from Donegal. And, as I’m sure you’re aware from your frequent trips to Derry, the road remains a disgrace, regardless of what Google suggests. BHD is likely a lot handier to access for the majority of the population of Belfast. Should we close Aldergrove as a result?
Anyway. LDY serves a broader catchment than the city of Derry. A lot of users come from Donegal. And, as I’m sure you’re aware from your frequent trips to Derry, the road remains a disgrace, regardless of what Google suggests. BHD is likely a lot handier to access for the majority of the population of Belfast. Should we close Aldergrove as a result?
Amazing how many people commute on that road every day and that the Airporter service runs to schedule despite it being a cart track
Last time I looked Donegal was not part of Northern Ireland nor where those working there UK taxpayers! This is UK government money, if Mr Varadker would like to contribute maybe he could
ask Pascal to cough up a share of the £2.5 million subsidy.
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The latest.
Stobart and Loganair interested.
Flybe and Are Lingus are aware but not saying much.
Easyjet or Ryanair looks like a non-starter.
https://www.derryjournal.com/news/st...CEOo7q-ACyMJ8E
Stobart and Loganair interested.
Flybe and Are Lingus are aware but not saying much.
Easyjet or Ryanair looks like a non-starter.
https://www.derryjournal.com/news/st...CEOo7q-ACyMJ8E
Thanks for that. I could’ve written your reply for you, it was so predictable. Why can’t people just recognise and accept, without blame or malice, that the A5 is a substandard carriageway between NI’s two largest cities? That’s before we address the fact that the southern government and Donegal CC have, in the past, provided funding for CoDA. As a slight detour, Airporter schedule 90 minutes to do 58.7 miles. An amazing 39.1mph.
We can round and round and round in circles all we like. CoDA is, at least in the short-term staying open. Perhaps if you and others expended as much energy in encouraging improvements at BFS as you do at denigrating LDY, then less “U.K. taxpayers” would be off to Dublin for their flights.
We can round and round and round in circles all we like. CoDA is, at least in the short-term staying open. Perhaps if you and others expended as much energy in encouraging improvements at BFS as you do at denigrating LDY, then less “U.K. taxpayers” would be off to Dublin for their flights.
