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Old 28th Oct 2018, 12:57
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Originally Posted by cuthere
...Also I hope the LM to GLA and FR to EDI both go well later...
Loganair LDY - GLA departure today has been sold out for a while and so is the return next week which is good to see.

It's also a larger Saab 2000 with 50 seats.
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Loganair LDY - GLA departure today has been sold out for a while and so is the return next week which is good to see.

It's also a larger Saab 2000 with 50 seats.
Here it is from about an hour ago...

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CAA stats for September 2018:

LDY movements:

563 (2018)

462 (2017)

Cancelled Movements: 173 (2018)

(Partly due to the removal of 2 Weekly GLA flights)

Increase of 18%

Passenger numbers:

12,136 (2018) = 15% Decrease

14,345 (2017)

Passengers per route:

- GLASGOW = 4310 = -42%
- LIVERPOOL = 4061 = +36%
- LONDON (STN) = 3 847 = -2%

Cancellation of 2 GLA flights a week in September clearly shown.

Load Factors:

-GLASGOW = 87%
-LIVERPOOL = 82%
-LONDON (STN) = 71%

Not a great month when compared to earlier this year.
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Still no sign of LDY > EDI for any dates past March 2019 and apparently Ryanair are now running radio ads in Scotland saying that their summer 2019 flights from GLA and EDI are now on sale.
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Originally Posted by scodaman
Still no sign of LDY > EDI for any dates past March 2019 and apparently Ryanair are now running radio ads in Scotland saying that their summer 2019 flights from GLA and EDI are now on sale.
I wouldn't fret too much. Selling just as well as GLA did (I would argue on somedays better) and Sofia and Riga still haven't been added either (Also moved from GLA so they are analysing their performance over the winter). It also is quite common that Ryanair keep playing with Schedules into late November.
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Is the poor facilities at LDY hampering route development?

The staff are friendly and do their best but the terminal is incredibly cramped. A lot of people don't treat it as a "real" airport. Many people immediately think of BFS or BHD first when planning a journey.

Would a larger more pleasant terminal attract better passenger numbers and consequently lead to route development and retention?

The current airport building is really only big enough to host the arrivals. The terminal needs expanded for a new departures area. The original building was never designed for 737s.
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Originally Posted by Amelia Earhart
Is the poor facilities at LDY hampering route development?

The staff are friendly and do their best but the terminal is incredibly cramped. A lot of people don't treat it as a "real" airport. Many people immediately think of BFS or BHD first when planning a journey.

Would a larger more pleasant terminal attract better passenger numbers and consequently lead to route development and retention?

The current airport building is really only big enough to host the arrivals. The terminal needs expanded for a new departures area. The original building was never designed for 737s.
I doubt it is, whilst its not ideal it is only recently where there has been flights overlapping and they are still being punctual. The reason many people jump to BFS or BHD isn't because of the facilities. Its because there is genuinely no choice. I read in the Masterplan that the terminal can cope with 2 B738s and something along the lines of a ATR72 at the one time. IIRC they also expanded departures since then. The Airport just needs to prove to the locals that they're trying for regional connectivity that will lower the reliance on BFS/BHD.

Unrelated but I remember Clive Coleman saying (on the Mark Patterson show) there will be a positive announcement by the end of the year regarding routes. Hopefully it comes through.
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A lot of people that are within the airports geographic region, also don't use it, for example, people from Coleraine and the North Coast almost never use the airport. That contrasts with the constant flow of people from Donegal who use it, and who aren't within the airports geographic region.

That's reflected by the over abundance of Irish Passports at the Gate.
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Owen, of course people from Donegal are in its “geographic region”. Also, and this may surprise you, a lot of Derry people have Irish passports.

I do wonder about your posts.
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Coleraine is also within its geographic area.
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Coleraine is also within its geographic area
And your point is....?
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Its just lack of choice sending passengers away. Failed routes in the past (During times of global economic instability causing loss of travellers) have hampered the airports chances for routes in the future. I do remain optimistic about Loganair. Increasing frequency and up-gauging before the route has even begun is a big statement. Historically operating Manchester and Dublin as well which are the airports desired routes.

I think this has been a positive year all round for the airport. Loss of Ryanair's GLA service turned out to be a blessing in disguise. The new EDI service seems to have sold really well so far and GLA seems to be doing well too. Operating 2 routes to the central belt now clearly shows the demand locally. The extra frequency on LPL this year was clearly used. (Not quite the 6 Weekly it used to be but its a start.) London has seen good load factors again this year. Finally PMI was full for all the dates expected. Movements up, Business traffic up, and rumblings on potential developments in the future. All coupled together with the before mentioned Loganair expansion on GLA for next year, momentum is growing. Hopefully the airport capitalise on it.

In other news, there WILL be a new operator for PMI next year (not confirmed as of yet) but with that potentially up-gauging to a -800 or an A320. Thomson's Summer 2020 scheme is to go on sale on the 8th of November too.

Something else that went un-noticed was the Balkan Holidays had "Derry" as a listing at one point for 2019. It was to operate for 8 Weeks during June/July to Burgas. However this was removed earlier in the year.

Sorry for the thesis, I was on a spree.
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And with the Open Golf at Portrush this year it is likely that LDY will benefit from quite an upturn in corporate traffic around the event.
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Originally Posted by cuthere
And with the Open Golf at Portrush this year it is likely that LDY will benefit from quite an upturn in corporate traffic around the event.
Fan charters aswell will be more prevelant than the Irish Open.
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Point of notice today:

Emergency exercise on Wednesday between 1700-2200.

G-JOTR also inbound to operate BM1507/08
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Ryanair - LDY-EDI

Good news Times are now loaded in for Summer 2019 at 5 weekly flights. Not bookable at the minute.
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Originally Posted by BFS BHD
Good news Times are now loaded in for Summer 2019 at 5 weekly flights. Not bookable at the minute.
Happy days!
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Ouch! 6.30am departure from Edinburgh Saturdays. Still, gives a nice early start and a full day in Edinburgh if going the other way.
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Originally Posted by cuthere
Ouch! 6.30am departure from Edinburgh Saturdays. Still, gives a nice early start and a full day in Edinburgh if going the other way.
Just wondering did you note the rest of the times before the site went down?
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Mostly evening flights. Arriving LDY at 20.25, departing 20.50. Only checked three or four dates.
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