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Old 16th Nov 2017, 20:25
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Here goes..thinking outside the box..and the SE...Would an extra 350 mts plus RESA for Luton,Bristol,Liverpool,Newcastle and Edinburgh/Glasgow not be a whole lot cheaper than the Billions proposed for Heathrow..and actually spread the load around? Or is that toooo simplistic?
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Spending a fraction of the HS2 money re-opening Filton would be extremely sensiblevand beneficial and thus discounted.
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@Highwideandugly

That would indeed be the logical solution, but unfortunately it's too much of a political hot potato. I'll let everyone make up their own minds on that, but my 'at-a-glance' take on it: It makes sense to add millions of extra seats across the Uk and make better use of these infrastructures rather than concentrate it all on 1 airport. On the other hand, airlines, particularly long haul, won't want to spread demand across more bases/destinations in close proximity, as it dilutes their yields, compared to focus on a couple and being able to charge an arm and leg. THey would prefer the expansion at LHR (and a couple others).

Try telling the politicians all this though and see how far you get...
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Old 17th Nov 2017, 10:37
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Originally Posted by highwideandugly View Post
Here goes..thinking outside the box..and the SE...Would an extra 350 mts plus RESA for Luton,Bristol,Liverpool,Newcastle and Edinburgh/Glasgow not be a whole lot cheaper than the Billions proposed for Heathrow..and actually spread the load around? Or is that toooo simplistic?
The existing master plan, prepared in 2005, says this about the runway issue.

Option 1 do nothing
From the analysis above it is clear that it is likely that a significant proportion of any long haul demand could be handled without the need for a runway extension. However, it is not possible to make precise estimates with any degree of accuracy over such a long time frame. This option carries some risk, but the timescales are such that this risk can be reassessed in subsequent revisions of the Master Plan if necessary.

Option 2 extend the runway by 140m
This is assessed as the maximum extension that can be accommodated within the existing airport land, without the need for airport control of Felton Common. Nevertheless the A38 would need to be lowered into a tunnel for a length of 150m. The instrument landing system for runway 09 would need to be relocated to just inside airport land at the boundary with the Common. If the existing landing threshold is retained for runway 27 there would be no need to relocate the existing approach light array. There is a possibility that some regrading of the Common may be needed to maintain satisfactory clearances from obstacle limitation surfaces.

Option 3 extend the runway by 389m
This has been assessed as the maximum extension that can be accommodated within the existing airport land. The end of the runway clear and graded area would then be at the boundary with Felton Common. The ILS localiser and, potentially approach lighting as well, would need to relocated on to the Common and a 240m by 150m area of the Common would need to come into airport control. It may be necessary to regrade parts of the Common.

Option 4 extend the runway by 239m with a 150m starter strip
A starter strip is a length of aircraft pavement that can be used by aircraft at the start of their take off run, but not for landing purposes. This option would add 389m to the runway 27 take off run, but only about 150m to the runway 09 take off run. This therefore means that runway 09 has performance penalties compared with runway 27. However the need to encroach on to Felton Common is avoided.

Option 5 extend the runway further, with further encroachment onto the Common.

Our overall conclusion is that the improvement in performance that might be achieved by extending the runway is relatively small in comparison with the costs and the potential environmental impact. Our preferred option at this stage is therefore the 'do nothing' option.


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Spending a fraction of the HS2 money re-opening Filton would be extremely sensiblevand beneficial and thus discounted.
Unfortunately, that now seems an impossibility.

Plans approved for more than 2,500 homes on Filton Airfield - Bristol Post

Incidentally, Im not aware of any news of a new CEO to replace Robert Sinclair who has moved to London City Airport as CEO. It might be thought by some that its not the most propitious time to embark on a major look at BRSs future with no CEO in place.
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Originally Posted by Wee Weasley Welshman View Post
Spending a fraction of the HS2 money re-opening Filton would be extremely sensiblevand beneficial and thus discounted.
To open Filton as an airport you would need to fill in holes that has been dug in runway and chainsaw for apron trees and under growth as was shown on the tv the other week when they showed the hanger they have put the concorde into.No prob with length but every thing else ummm.
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Boy - re-open Filton - with all those 16000++ good people in Stoke Gifford right under the approach

Not a hope in hell.
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Old 17th Nov 2017, 16:23
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The people who will be living in the 2,500 homes to be built on the Filton site might have something to say about aircraft taking off and landing up and down their streets too.
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Old 18th Nov 2017, 07:46
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Pah - they shoudl have known that they risked that when they bought on an old airfield

Send in the bailiffs!
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Old 30th Nov 2017, 12:15
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BA CityFlyer- Summer 2018

New timings for most of the routes compared with summer 17, with Malaga increased to 2 x weekly which facilitates the E190 positioning in and out at the beginning and end of the Saturday programme.

Saturday
BA7340 AGP 0105 BRS 0245
BA7023 BRS 0615 PMI 0940
BA7022 PMI 1025 BRS 1155
BA7016 FLR 1105 BRS 1225
BA7021 BRS 1245 AGP 1625
BA7017 BRS 1310 FLR 1625
BA7020 AGP 1715 BRS 1900
BA7019 BRS 1945 IBZ 2310
BA7018 IBZ 2355 BRS 0120 (Sun)

Sunday
BA7021 BRS 0625 AGP 1005

As summer 17, all flights on E190 except Florence which remains E170.
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Went to the presentation in the week when it was in Weston.4 big drawings of the different plans. 1 involves moving winters lane again as they in talks with the golf club as to buying it and also the row of houses along down side road.none of the plans are set in concrete as they said bits from each plan might be used. Its worth going along and there is a feedback forn to fill out and free post back to them.Also they give you a book with all the details about the plans which makes good reading.
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Easyjet add Seville and Genoa
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Old 12th Dec 2017, 16:06
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easyJet

Genoa and Seville now in the easyJet booking system both 2 x weekly from 2 June, both on Tue and Sat.

I make that 65 easyJet routes from BRS, albeit some are seasonal.

Ryanair operated Seville for three summers between 2009 and 2011 but I can't remember Genoa ever previously being operated as a regular route. Seville and Bristol are Airbus centres so there might be some passenger traffic as a result of that.

The easyJet timetable requires 15 based aircraft next summer (one more than in 2017), with part of August requiring 16 as things stand.
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Old 17th Dec 2017, 19:16
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The airport has tweeted out this evening

Due to technical problems with airfield equipment required in low visibility, inbound flights are currently being delayed or diverted. Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience caused today and we will keep you updated when we have any further information.
And sure enough, the departures and arrivals boards are looking messy. ILS down?
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ILS on runway 27 is u/s !
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Old Terminal Demolition

Part of the masterplan - offices being relocated into new terminal / part of new development closer to the new tower.

When?

News on the street is 'early in 2018'.

Arrival of portacabins will be the first we get to hear?

Anyone 'in the know'?

Merry Christmas one and all!

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Old 21st Dec 2017, 22:41
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As reported over on the bmi thread, BM to start BRS-GOT on their usual slightly esoteric scheduling.

BRS-GOT 13:40 - 16:50 14
GOT-BRS 14:40 - 16:00 2
GOT-BRS 11:40 - 13:00 5

https://www.flybmi.com/press-release...tol-gothenburg

"Fares on the route start from 99 one way." - that'll be for the first ten seats sold.
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Old 22nd Dec 2017, 11:06
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Bristol closed - jet off runway

EGGD currently closed in LVPs. Aircraft off runway. Airport rumour BMI aircraft.
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Eggd 221150z auto 25004kt 0200 r27/0400 fg vv/// 10/10 q1035
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Updates: Flights at Bristol Airport delayed after plane leaves runway - Bristol Post
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Updates: Flights at Bristol Airport delayed after plane leaves runway - Bristol Post
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