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NYC or BOS
I see the airport's social media person/team have jumped on Facebook's new poll feature (aka Twitter's poll feature) to ask which long haul route people would like to see next from BRS, with options of NYC or BOS.
As long as it isn't a Point 2 Point route operated by an LCC, which leaves me at a US gateway with no onward connection possibilities, I don't mind.
As long as it isn't a Point 2 Point route operated by an LCC, which leaves me at a US gateway with no onward connection possibilities, I don't mind.
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A few items have cropped up vis-a-vis BRS this week.
Ontario Teachers’ Pension Plan sells 30% stake in BRS
https://www.otpp.com/news/article/-/article/780836
Ontario Teachers’ Pension Plan (OTPP), the sole owners of BRS, has announced an agreement whereby it will sell 30% of its stake to Australian investors: New South Wales Treasury Corporation (TCorp) (15%) and Sunsuper Superannuation Fund (Sunsuper) (15%).
BRS to be partially slot coordinated
https://www.bristolairport.co.uk/abo...-night-flights
The Department for Transport has approved Bristol Airport’s request to be designated as ‘partially coordinated’ under the EC and UK Airport Slot Allocation Regulations. The airport will be raised to level 3 status but only between 2300 and 0700 from the last week in March to the last week in October. At other times it will remain at level 2.
The move is intended to give the airport greater control over its night flight movements and noise quota count limits. Some local people are fearful that this will actually mean more night flights with the movements and noise quota count both exceeded.
There will be more based aircraft at BRS next summer which is likely to lead to more flights during the noise quota count period (2330-0600).
New BRS master plan consultation
https://www.bristolairport.co.uk/abo...iews-on-future
BRS will publish a consultation document later this month and will begin seeking views of communities, stakeholders and the general public on how to meet demand over the next 30 years. Following these consultations a new draft master plan will be published which will be subject of further consultation next spring.
Long haul
https://www.bristolairport.co.uk/abo...cessful-summer
BRS is seeking more long haul flights following TUI’s return this summer to Florida and Cancun with Punta Cana joining the programme next summer. They want more long haul east and west and are also talking with existing carriers about ways of increasing frequency to major hubs.
The possibility of Wales gaining an APD advantage still weighs heavily with the airport management as can be seen from a comment in the linked press release.
Summer 2018
Next summer’s timetables show the need for an additional based easyJet Airbus (the 15th), an additional based TUI aircraft plus a part-based B787 and an additional based Thomas Cook aircraft.
The total based complement would be:
easyJet - 15 Airbuses (319 and 320)
Ryanair - 4 Boeing 737-800s
TUI - 2 Boeing 757s, 2 Boeing 737-800s and a part-based Boeing 787
Thomas Cook - 2 A 321s and an A 320 (probably third party)
bmi regional - 5/6 E 135s/145s
In addition a KLM Cityhopper E190 night stops. There won’t be much free space around the aprons during the early hours.
Multi-storey car park
Preparatory work is under way on the new car park on the north side.
Ontario Teachers’ Pension Plan sells 30% stake in BRS
https://www.otpp.com/news/article/-/article/780836
Ontario Teachers’ Pension Plan (OTPP), the sole owners of BRS, has announced an agreement whereby it will sell 30% of its stake to Australian investors: New South Wales Treasury Corporation (TCorp) (15%) and Sunsuper Superannuation Fund (Sunsuper) (15%).
BRS to be partially slot coordinated
https://www.bristolairport.co.uk/abo...-night-flights
The Department for Transport has approved Bristol Airport’s request to be designated as ‘partially coordinated’ under the EC and UK Airport Slot Allocation Regulations. The airport will be raised to level 3 status but only between 2300 and 0700 from the last week in March to the last week in October. At other times it will remain at level 2.
The move is intended to give the airport greater control over its night flight movements and noise quota count limits. Some local people are fearful that this will actually mean more night flights with the movements and noise quota count both exceeded.
There will be more based aircraft at BRS next summer which is likely to lead to more flights during the noise quota count period (2330-0600).
New BRS master plan consultation
https://www.bristolairport.co.uk/abo...iews-on-future
BRS will publish a consultation document later this month and will begin seeking views of communities, stakeholders and the general public on how to meet demand over the next 30 years. Following these consultations a new draft master plan will be published which will be subject of further consultation next spring.
Long haul
https://www.bristolairport.co.uk/abo...cessful-summer
BRS is seeking more long haul flights following TUI’s return this summer to Florida and Cancun with Punta Cana joining the programme next summer. They want more long haul east and west and are also talking with existing carriers about ways of increasing frequency to major hubs.
The possibility of Wales gaining an APD advantage still weighs heavily with the airport management as can be seen from a comment in the linked press release.
Summer 2018
Next summer’s timetables show the need for an additional based easyJet Airbus (the 15th), an additional based TUI aircraft plus a part-based B787 and an additional based Thomas Cook aircraft.
The total based complement would be:
easyJet - 15 Airbuses (319 and 320)
Ryanair - 4 Boeing 737-800s
TUI - 2 Boeing 757s, 2 Boeing 737-800s and a part-based Boeing 787
Thomas Cook - 2 A 321s and an A 320 (probably third party)
bmi regional - 5/6 E 135s/145s
In addition a KLM Cityhopper E190 night stops. There won’t be much free space around the aprons during the early hours.
Multi-storey car park
Preparatory work is under way on the new car park on the north side.
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I see the airport's social media person/team have jumped on Facebook's new poll feature (aka Twitter's poll feature) to ask which long haul route people would like to see next from BRS, with options of NYC or BOS.
As long as it isn't a Point 2 Point route operated by an LCC, which leaves me at a US gateway with no onward connection possibilities, I don't mind.
As long as it isn't a Point 2 Point route operated by an LCC, which leaves me at a US gateway with no onward connection possibilities, I don't mind.
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So press release today stating that US direct flight/s hoping to be announced in next two years...what is everyones guess? Norweigian?
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I saw an article from a Swindon publication released today that said they hope to be able to name a carrier for direct flights within the next two years.
Where did you see this release saying next two weeks?
Where did you see this release saying next two weeks?
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Direct US flights will return to Bristol Airport, it says, as blueprint for further growth is launched | Bristol Business News
Probably this which is based on recent BRS press releases although in none could I find the airport giving a timeline for a NYC return. This article mentions two years.
Probably this which is based on recent BRS press releases although in none could I find the airport giving a timeline for a NYC return. This article mentions two years.
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Georgian Rugby Team are flying in next week on an A320. Guess's on our Bristol Airport Spotting Facebook group, are that it will be an Azerbaijan Airlines.
Friday 17 Nov
Arr: 5008 from TBS at 11:20
Sunday 19 Nov
Dep: 5009 to TBS at 22:00
You can also see the Bristol Airport Spotting website for any spotting needs, including 'On-Ground' aircraft, mayflys, arrivals and departures, weather and much more.
Friday 17 Nov
Arr: 5008 from TBS at 11:20
Sunday 19 Nov
Dep: 5009 to TBS at 22:00
You can also see the Bristol Airport Spotting website for any spotting needs, including 'On-Ground' aircraft, mayflys, arrivals and departures, weather and much more.
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787 Ops
Would anybody in the know be able to advise whether BRS could take a 787-10 in the future? Just reading another thread where EK has confirmed order of 45 787-10s, this could open up several more destinations for the airline, BRS may be in sights if the 787-10 can get in and out?
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Would anybody in the know be able to advise whether BRS could take a 787-10 in the future? Just reading another thread where EK has confirmed order of 45 787-10s, this could open up several more destinations for the airline, BRS may be in sights if the 787-10 can get in and out?
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I'd have thought BRS would be pretty much a given if Emirates change some orders into the 789. The 78J might be just that little bit short on performance, but don't quote me on that, I may be wrong. I understand parking is probably the main issue.
Has a 777 ever been to Bristol? You could get a 777 300ER out of Bristol to Dubai with relative ease, but (again I may be mistaken) I understand that it might just be too big for manoeuvring on the ground at BRS.
Has a 777 ever been to Bristol? You could get a 777 300ER out of Bristol to Dubai with relative ease, but (again I may be mistaken) I understand that it might just be too big for manoeuvring on the ground at BRS.
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A 777 you are joking of course. 767 landing a few years ago had a very interesting landing on 09. I guess as long as you can use the road for take off and landing outside the airfield you should be ok.
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A 777 would have no issues at BRS. They are immense performers, better than the 767.
Regular service might bring up some issues, but triples operate from sub 7,000ft runways every day. It would seem to me that the aprons and taxiways at Bristol present more of an issue than the runway
Regular service might bring up some issues, but triples operate from sub 7,000ft runways every day. It would seem to me that the aprons and taxiways at Bristol present more of an issue than the runway
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Bristol is currently approved for Code E aircraft operations. The approval is limited to B787-8, B787-9, and A330-300.
Heading 125 - What is your obsession with Bristol and 09? I know CWL has a longer and flatter runway, and yes, there was a hard landing with a First Choice 767 using Bristols Runway 09, however the investigation summarised that not only the runway profile, but nuisance GPWS alerts and the meteorological conditions may have influenced the hard landing. Why do you continuously bring it up? It happened over 7 years ago... can we move on now please?
Since 2010 First Choice/Thomson, now TUI have not moved their longhaul flights out of BRS (except for taking a break during the economic downturn), and this year the B787-8 operated to both Florida and Mexico. They clearly aren't concerned? In fact, next year TUI are doubling the the 787 flights and will base a B787-8 at Bristol for 4 days a week with new flights to Cape Verde and the Dominican Republic on top of the Florida and Mexico flights.
Since 2010 First Choice/Thomson, now TUI have not moved their longhaul flights out of BRS (except for taking a break during the economic downturn), and this year the B787-8 operated to both Florida and Mexico. They clearly aren't concerned? In fact, next year TUI are doubling the the 787 flights and will base a B787-8 at Bristol for 4 days a week with new flights to Cape Verde and the Dominican Republic on top of the Florida and Mexico flights.
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There were other matters that had a bearing on the AAIB report's final conclusion too, Severn.
For example, the flight crew could have locked the inertia reels of their shoulder harnesses, but did not. Had the shoulder harnesses been locked, it is possible that the degree to which they were thrown forward would have been reduced, and in the commander’s case, any consequent movement of the control column would have been lessened (verbatim from the AAIB report).
Another example is that there was a history of damage to B767s following hard nose-gear touchdowns and Boeing had produced training and awareness material on the subject but the operator was not aware and consequently the information had not been made available to the flight crew.
This is the full AAIB report and hopefully lessons have been learned - the usual comment in any sphere when things have gone wrong but in this case let's hope it is true and that the lessons have been acted on. TUI seems happy to commit its 787s to operating from the runway and it goes without saying that such an airline would take no known risks with its passengers and crews.
https://assets.publishing.service.go...OOBK_05-12.pdf
On another topic, BRS has begun its in-depth examination of its master plan today, looking ahead over the next 30 years. There will be all sorts of consultations with partners, local authorities and local communities as well as the public at large with various events taking place around the region where the public will have the chance to meet airport managers and have their say. Following this a draft master plan will be prepared which will go out to further consultation.
The new annual passenger projections are: 12 million in 2025; 15 million in 2035; 19 million in 2045. The current 12-monthly throughput is just under 8.2 million.
Nothing seems to have been ruled out including building a brand new terminal to replace the current one that opened in 2000 and has been almost continually expanded since. Actually, that's not quite true because they say 'an extended runway is not currently in our plans, with the existing A38 expected to remain a well-defined eastern boundary'.
https://www.bristolairport.co.uk/abo...for-the-future
For example, the flight crew could have locked the inertia reels of their shoulder harnesses, but did not. Had the shoulder harnesses been locked, it is possible that the degree to which they were thrown forward would have been reduced, and in the commander’s case, any consequent movement of the control column would have been lessened (verbatim from the AAIB report).
Another example is that there was a history of damage to B767s following hard nose-gear touchdowns and Boeing had produced training and awareness material on the subject but the operator was not aware and consequently the information had not been made available to the flight crew.
This is the full AAIB report and hopefully lessons have been learned - the usual comment in any sphere when things have gone wrong but in this case let's hope it is true and that the lessons have been acted on. TUI seems happy to commit its 787s to operating from the runway and it goes without saying that such an airline would take no known risks with its passengers and crews.
https://assets.publishing.service.go...OOBK_05-12.pdf
On another topic, BRS has begun its in-depth examination of its master plan today, looking ahead over the next 30 years. There will be all sorts of consultations with partners, local authorities and local communities as well as the public at large with various events taking place around the region where the public will have the chance to meet airport managers and have their say. Following this a draft master plan will be prepared which will go out to further consultation.
The new annual passenger projections are: 12 million in 2025; 15 million in 2035; 19 million in 2045. The current 12-monthly throughput is just under 8.2 million.
Nothing seems to have been ruled out including building a brand new terminal to replace the current one that opened in 2000 and has been almost continually expanded since. Actually, that's not quite true because they say 'an extended runway is not currently in our plans, with the existing A38 expected to remain a well-defined eastern boundary'.
https://www.bristolairport.co.uk/abo...for-the-future