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Old 9th Apr 2020, 15:42
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BA pulling out permanently according to BBC
do you have an actual bbc webpage link for this?
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Originally Posted by globetrotter79
do you have an actual bbc webpage link for this?
I've just been through the entire BBC website and cannot find any info
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Originally Posted by cessnarocket
I've just been through the entire BBC website and cannot find any info
On the daily updates
Says EI doing and accomodating BA pax

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-northern-ireland-52158868

I know the BA lounge merged with the Aspire lounge as this all started to kick off so we will have to wait and see
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Old 9th Apr 2020, 15:59
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Originally Posted by Startledgrapefruit
On the daily updates
Says EI doing and accomodating BA pax

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-n...eland-52158868

I know the BA lounge merged with the Aspire lounge as this all started to kick off so we will have to wait and see
You are correct just found it sad times. Some businesses will recover from this some won't unfortunately.
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Old 9th Apr 2020, 16:07
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Originally Posted by cessnarocket
You are correct just found it sad times. Some businesses will recover from this some won't unfortunately.
Might only be until things get back to normal !
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Originally Posted by Startledgrapefruit
Might only be until things get back to normal !
The BBC is reporting it within the article as permanent
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Afraid there’s every chance it might simply be history repeating itself.

BA operated a Heathrow Shuttle service from Aldergrove forever, and overnight summarily executed it under the cover of 9/11. Good day to bury bad news and all that..

When BA made a return to Belfast and Dublin a number of years back, after they bought British Midland, they started up with virtually the same schedule and capacity on both BFS and DUB into Heathrow. Now the UK air tax has directed so many travellers south from NI to DUB that the BA op out of Dublin is easily twice the size of the one out of Belfast!

No doubt BA will be looking at their whole network - like every airline - in these unprecedented circumstances. If a route is already shrinking for them like Belfast Heathrow, and they can’t get any direct Government support to help keep it operating because of other airlines serving Belfast London, it may indeed suit them to up sticks and go. After all there hasn’t been as politically ready made and watertight an excuse to abandon anything, well since they last left NI eighteen and a half years ago! 😳

Sorry state of affairs indeed.
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Old 9th Apr 2020, 17:18
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There has been no announcement from BA ,as yet , indicating they will scrap the route permanently.
they have already suspended domestic routes from Heathrow to Newcastle , Leeds, Inverness and there has been no suggestion they wouldn't return at some stage.Belfast has been taken off sale from 13-30Apr but seats are still on sale from 01May.This would suggest it's a temporary measure and the BBC NI reporter has misinterpreted the situation.

On the other hand , there are political sensitivities regarding the "National Carrier" ditching the link between N.I. and the UK capital. The last time BA pulled off Aldergrove to Heathrow was in the aftermath of the horrific events of 9/11. If BA did want to get off the route , the current situation with Corona would be an opportunity to do so with minimum political flack

we will have to await either official confirmation from BA or Belfast City Airport , or for the thoughts of an insider from either of these.

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Old 9th Apr 2020, 18:12
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Originally Posted by BCALBOY
There has been no announcement from BA ,as yet , indicating they will scrap the route permanently.
they have already suspended domestic routes from Heathrow to Newcastle , Leeds, Inverness and there has been no suggestion they wouldn't return at some stage.Belfast has been taken off sale from 13-30Apr but seats are still on sale from 01May.This would suggest it's a temporary measure and the BBC NI reporter has misinterpreted the situation.

On the other hand , there are political sensitivities regarding the "National Carrier" ditching the link between N.I. and the UK capital. The last time BA pulled off Aldergrove to Heathrow was in the aftermath of the horrific events of 9/11. If BA did want to get off the route , the current situation with Corona would be an opportunity to do so with minimum political flack

we will have to await either official confirmation from BA or Belfast City Airport , or for the thoughts of an insider from either of these.
Well, the other half of NI view Aer Lingus as our "National Carrier".
You really know who your friends are when times are tough...Thank you Aer Lingus for maintaining the route to LHR and for keeping Belfast City Airport from closing.
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Bricks being built out of straw again...
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Old 9th Apr 2020, 18:35
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A little thing, BA used to sell the EI flights on its website, this appears to have stopped...
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Old 9th Apr 2020, 19:37
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Originally Posted by panpanpanpan
Where does it say this is a permanent withdrawal of the route? At the bottom of the report it states that its the busiest route in the airport but has seen a dramatic fall because of restrictions associated with the coronavirus. Would the implication not be thats it pulled until such time as life gets back to normal?
Of course it’s the busiest route as it was served by two carriers on multiple shuttles a day. Maybe this is no longer sustainable under current circumstances!
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Old 9th Apr 2020, 20:58
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Originally Posted by panpanpanpan
It probably isn't sustainable under the present circumstances, not much in aviation at the minute! It is also the exact reason that there are ZERO commercial flights from Aldergrove, however it is interesting to note the usual suspects almost gloating that this will force Harbour to close.

Once this virus blows over, and it will, all airports will in effect be starting again from scratch. It will be interesting to see if those airlines with smaller aircraft and lower break even figures fare any better than those much larger carriers trying to fill an Airbus or equivalent with its associated bigger break even figure. I've read a few reports saying the domestic market will recover first followed by leisure traffic to Europe etc. Time will tell. Perhaps Harbour might be in a relatively strong position to take advantage. Who knows!
I tend to agree with you that domestic connectivity, ie predominantly business travel will probably recover the quickest and this will most likely be to Harbours advantage. Eastern Airways has already confirmed route expansion from the airport post Covid and will be a good start to backfill lost BE routes.
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Old 30th Apr 2020, 18:17
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Originally Posted by stewyb
I tend to agree with you that domestic connectivity, ie predominantly business travel will probably recover the quickest and this will most likely be to Harbours advantage. Eastern Airways has already confirmed route expansion from the airport post Covid and will be a good start to backfill lost BE routes.
Another thing that might work in its favour, most people I know visiting NI much prefer the shorter BHD bus route into town than the long bus from BFS.
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Old 1st May 2020, 05:33
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Given the recently announced range of domestic flights announced by EZY from BFS, I would have thought any operator planning to fly from BHD will now be thinking twice.

EZY will have price, frequency and familiarity over any new starter.
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Govt to fund LDY LON and BHD LHR and ferries...

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/g...tent=immediate,
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Great news
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Old 1st May 2020, 11:37
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How long will 5.7m GBP last to support two airports and two opertaors?
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Old 1st May 2020, 13:09
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How long will 5.7m GBP last to support two airports and two opertaors?
Yeah seems like a drop in the ocean. Ferries got £17m last week for five routes, maybe it's being doing based on # routes. Would love to see a cost breakdown.
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Presumably there is still some demand, albeit much-reduced, for BHD/LHR travel.
What are the criteria for being able to travel on a domestic route like this at this time?
Presumably there might be some essential scientific/medical travellers, but my understanding is that although one can travel to non-essential work (if you can't work from home), you must comply with social distancing. Is such distancing being achieved in terminals and on board?
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