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Old 14th Feb 2018, 18:56
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Split load with BHX i think
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Old 14th Feb 2018, 19:45
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Not sure if this historic link will work, but more details here -

http://www.niaviation.co.uk/index.php?topic=3181.0
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Old 16th Feb 2018, 13:42
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KEF-BHD axed

Air Iceland Connect is closing its Keflavik base and disposing of its Q400s, meaning KEF-BHD will be axed on 13th May. ABZ will also be cancelled, as well as domestic services from KEF. The average load factor since July is about 50%, so the route was already on the rocks. This leaves Belfast with only winter seasonal flights to KEF with easyJet.

The only positive is that so few passengers used the service that its cancellation will have almost no impact on BHD passenger figures.

The use of the Q400 will definitely have had a negative impact on the route's success. It will be interesting to see however if Icelandair do eventually return to the Belfast market, be it from BHD or BFS using their B737 MAX fleet. I also wonder if WOW Air will give the route a go, as Icelandir's prices from BHD were rather extortionate.

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/n...-fleet-quit-uk

https://worldairlinenews.com/2018/02...luding-the-uk/
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Old 16th Feb 2018, 13:43
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Icelandair to end their Belfast service. Last flight to be on 15th May.
Such a shame after the UA withdrawal, that FI could've offered the one-stop service to many destinations in North America. Customers with bookings after that date can opt to fly from Dublin, or refund.


Poor advertising, poor scheduling, wrong aircraft from BHD, lack of demand??
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Old 16th Feb 2018, 14:43
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Wonder if this will encourage EZY to continue the KEF service into the summer or is there more money to be made on the sun routes?
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Old 16th Feb 2018, 15:50
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Blue Chip

As Mr A and Ms B have been saying "our strong network of blue-chip airline partners"......that's 4 carriers gone in less than 3 years (Veuling, SN Brussels Citywing and now Icelandair). Not good for Northern Ireland if we keep losing airlines.
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Old 16th Feb 2018, 16:52
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It's not good news but it's part of bigger cuts, ABZ, BHX and some domestic routes have all gone. Shame.
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Old 16th Feb 2018, 19:59
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Another loss for Belfast with the airline basically transferring services to Dublin.

Is the KLM BHD operation sound, or will that end up floundering at the dead hand of DUB expansion too?

Surely the air tax burden in Northern Ireland has to get sorted soon?
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Old 16th Feb 2018, 20:38
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Aye Stormont will get right on that I'm sure.
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Old 17th Feb 2018, 01:33
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Tax may be an issue but lets not blame it on KEF loss, the route was 100% geared to long haul and not O&D and it failed to capture the market here and from the US.
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Old 17th Feb 2018, 07:21
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Originally Posted by OneBellEnd
Another loss for Belfast with the airline basically transferring services to Dublin.
No, the airline is basically going bust and is retreating to the size it was 10 years ago, flying between Iceland and Greenland with a couple of 25-year-old Dashes.

The Dublin services are nothing to do with Air Iceland but Icelandair are underwriting any tickets that people want to transfer.
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Old 17th Feb 2018, 09:58
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Nothing to do with easyJet trouncing them on route also. Don't worry though as Ms Best will put a positive spin by announcing the new route from Belfast s favourite airport to Carlisle International. 3 weekly with fares from was it £69 or £79 one way. That's according to someone called Alteagod who also claimes BA,s most profitable route is LHR to BHD. Obviously wasent around in the days of up to 3 Tristrars 4 757s and 8 DC9s daily to LHR and Dan Airs BAC 1-11s 4daily to LGW

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Old 17th Feb 2018, 10:36
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DC9_10 air Iceland connect are cutting a number of routes as has been said its the airline more than anything. The route was aimed at North America and Canada connections not people wanting an alternative to Krakow for the weekend. Reality is it was overpriced, price is the big driver and the US/Canada is becoming more and more competitive. I don't suppose they ever believed they would damage EZY in any way. And also, the lack of willingness of people in NI to use anything other than DUB for transatlantic whether direct or otherwise is a big factor. Its exactly the same mentality on a different scale that affects BHX, people get on the motorway to LHR because they feel they need to fly from a major airport to get to the US etc, regardless of price in some cases. I was discussing with someone recently in work Norwegian and their Stewart flight, the argument being landing and taking off too far from New York so instead spend 2.5hrs to get to Dublin airport and save 20 minutes using pre-clearance but have to queue for 1hr for the privilege. However that aside back in BHD the combination of LHR and AMS are still popular for connections.
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Old 17th Feb 2018, 10:54
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Originally Posted by GAZMO
Wonder if this will encourage EZY to continue the KEF service into the summer or is there more money to be made on the sun routes?
easyJet initially operated BFS-KEF year round, but even before Icelandair entered the market, they cut it to winter seasonal due to a lack of point-to-point demand. WOW Air might find the route more appealing, and given their low fares they would be a more attractive option for both point-to-point and connecting passengers.
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A320.b744 I'd agree
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Norwegian have also had an impact. FI ain't cheap and the two times we have used Nowegian last summer from BFS, the service was fantastic. On time all 4 flights out and early return. Me and Mrs DC9-10 even managed a full fry up at Isobeals in High Street after an early return from Stewart. Granted we had lifts with fambo to drive us. I'm sure Cutters would have something negative to say as I live in Liverpool, but o no, he's banned.
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Old 17th Feb 2018, 15:47
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Have any of Vueling, Brussels Airlines or Icelandair actually lasted a full year at BHD in recent times?
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Old 17th Feb 2018, 16:12
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Brussels - Changing of the fleet
Iceland- changing of the fleet
Vueling- throw darts at map and see what works
Whoosh- strange name. not getting on that
City jet- London city ? not near heathrow ?
Easyjet- ok we forgive you
anything that used "That j31"- its that J31
Airwales- its Wales

The list goes on
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Old 17th Feb 2018, 16:18
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No lad Neither did Bmi, bmi baby,Manx, Gill air, Capitol, Loganair, Air UK Brymon,Air Berlin ext. Lingus next for the chopping board after Eastern. EI Sun routes chartered to ASL on a clapped out 737 300. Tech all the way. Oh are Jetxtra sill starting who are not bonded by ABTA/ATOL also.

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Old 17th Feb 2018, 16:46
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Fun packed summer abead then. KLM well I think jury still out on that one. They really could do with second or third flight. I take it from all the who ha that the routes conference did fiddly squat for either BHD or BFS!
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