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ASL may be operating AGP/FAO service on behalf of EI this summer.
Believe cabin crew are still based for LHR, would expect if ASL happens any seasonal crew will be offered employment at DUB.
So no Ei crew based in Belfast for the summer?
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I must admit “exceptional” in my eyes would refer to an emergency or a “special flight” such as military or royal.
A Flybe Dash running 30 minutes lates would not really be an execrational circumstance.
LCY has strict operating hours, late flights get cancelled or div to Southend.
It could be seen the same rules should apply for BHD and any delays go to BFS
A Flybe Dash running 30 minutes lates would not really be an execrational circumstance.
LCY has strict operating hours, late flights get cancelled or div to Southend.
It could be seen the same rules should apply for BHD and any delays go to BFS
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Interesting.
Suppose it's too wild to theorize any possible connection in this "maladministration"to the former Head of NI Planning Service, followed on by the former Head of theCivil Service, being members of Belfast City Airport's Board?
Suppose it's too wild to theorize any possible connection in this "maladministration"to the former Head of NI Planning Service, followed on by the former Head of theCivil Service, being members of Belfast City Airport's Board?
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Oops, probably inappropriate use of words.
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The local communities get a large ammount of money from BHD community-based fund that is paid for by the levies on delayed flights so a bit of a double edged sword. I think the core issue is what is exceptional. I do not think you can class late running a/c because of weather in Glasgow for example as exceptional but you could argue late due crew sickness is exceptional.
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And the man in the posh house with the 2 Mercedes says"
Forget about those jets dropping the speed brakes and flaps over Belfast at 01.00 in the summer time when we keep our windows open as its too warm.
They are not the ones that waken us up.
we don't speak of them."
Nimby Verse 3 chapter 11-15
Forget about those jets dropping the speed brakes and flaps over Belfast at 01.00 in the summer time when we keep our windows open as its too warm.
They are not the ones that waken us up.
we don't speak of them."
Nimby Verse 3 chapter 11-15
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Really amuses that the local residents are seen as the villains here. The airport has been given a set of rules to operate to, rules that they have accepted. A government dept was given the job of monitoring all this, but like many gov depts, decided not to do what they were paid to do. This week we discover that they didn't even have a definition of what "exceptional circumstances" meant. Why? Well what about this for a reason, neither the airport nor the gov dept were taking the rules seriously, any delay for any reason is ok, just come on in. After all these years they have been found out.
It was posted on here some weeks back that KLM would like a 6.00 am departure out. Well if they want that and they knew the operating hours before they started, or should have, why go to Bhd then?
Well done local residents, hopefully for once big industry and government that says one thing and does another will now have to play by the rules. Just a very small step to show that people can't always be walked over, as has been happening too much recently.
It was posted on here some weeks back that KLM would like a 6.00 am departure out. Well if they want that and they knew the operating hours before they started, or should have, why go to Bhd then?
Well done local residents, hopefully for once big industry and government that says one thing and does another will now have to play by the rules. Just a very small step to show that people can't always be walked over, as has been happening too much recently.
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Some day, Startledgrapefruit, you might be on the receiving end of an organisation that isn't playing by the rules. I'm not sure you will shrug your shoulders and say, I'm only 0.00000000000001%, I don't matter. We have seen enough of big organisations thinking they can use the rules to suit themselves, usually at the expense of us on the street and some day it could be you. I've had enough of "big" thinking the wee guy doesn't matter, whether it is a private company or gov dept. And remember, if you are a tax payer, you were paying for a gov dept that decided just to not bother doing what it was supposed to do. Seen that before?
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Have you ever been to one of their meetings ?
When they had them they had a lot of empty seats.
Now they don't seem to have public meetings which for a residents group is strange.
Anyway back to the news.
Builders are in and administration are down in their new rabbit hole.
When they had them they had a lot of empty seats.
Now they don't seem to have public meetings which for a residents group is strange.
Anyway back to the news.
Builders are in and administration are down in their new rabbit hole.
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Seriously can we not have this debate again. I'm waiting for the flegs to go up. Its like them uns up there. Shoot me now. We have two airports, get over it. And just for the record, we're a country, not a county.
Seriously can we not have this debate again. I'm waiting for the flegs to go up. Its like them uns up there. Shoot me now. We have two airports, get over it. And just for the record, we're a country, not a county.
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If all delayed flights were forced to abide by the 21:30-06:30 curfew, then it just makes matters worse. If a delayed flight is forced to divert to BFS, then obviously that aircraft will need to position itself at BHD before its morning departure. No flights are allowed to arrive before 06:30, meaning there is no chance that an aircraft diverted to BFS the night before would be ready for one of the airport's 06:30-07:00 departures. Consequently these flights are delayed, causing further delays throughout the day, and consequently leading to the aircraft being diverted to BFS again. Think of the time and money wasted by airlines and airports for diverting all delayed flights.
In addition, the vast majority of local residents moved to the area after BHD recommenced commercial flights in 1983. These people actively chose to live in close proximity to BHD, so they have absolutely no right to complain about aircraft noise. If they didn't want to be disturbed by aircraft, they shouldn't have moved to the area - it's as simple as that. BHD made the right call by allowing delayed flights to land at the airport past the curfew.
In addition, the vast majority of local residents moved to the area after BHD recommenced commercial flights in 1983. These people actively chose to live in close proximity to BHD, so they have absolutely no right to complain about aircraft noise. If they didn't want to be disturbed by aircraft, they shouldn't have moved to the area - it's as simple as that. BHD made the right call by allowing delayed flights to land at the airport past the curfew.
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Absolutely right. And it doesn't really matter what happens at BHD there's people on this forum who plainly and simply don't want it to exist for whatever reason. Any new route or growth is apparently as a result of some form of corruption or won't last and the slightest decline is supposed to be the beginning of the end. People shouting in here in defence of the poor residents of Holywood and Helen's Bay with swimming pool and room for a pony who apparently can't cope with the noise but would gladly have Emirates landing hourly at BFS, if only for spotting opportunities, regardless of how much noise it created for the people of Crumlin, Templepatrick etc who let's face have much bigger and noisier aircraft flying over, and right through the night at times.
Absolutely right. And it doesn't really matter what happens at BHD there's people on this forum who plainly and simply don't want it to exist for whatever reason. Any new route or growth is apparently as a result of some form of corruption or won't last and the slightest decline is supposed to be the beginning of the end. People shouting in here in defence of the poor residents of Holywood and Helen's Bay with swimming pool and room for a pony who apparently can't cope with the noise but would gladly have Emirates landing hourly at BFS, if only for spotting opportunities, regardless of how much noise it created for the people of Crumlin, Templepatrick etc who let's face have much bigger and noisier aircraft flying over, and right through the night at times.
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Those recorded delays amount to 1 every night during that period. So if I had moved to under the flight path and read the agreement I might have put up with the noise during the day as growth is restricted. Also I would have said to myself that only flights after 9.30 in 'exceptional circumstances', but every night!.
Airlines who operate from there know the game plan and do so at their own risk/cost. Good to see that this issue is being looked into.
Airlines who operate from there know the game plan and do so at their own risk/cost. Good to see that this issue is being looked into.
