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Old 5th May 2020, 18:35
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"those who need to travel to/from London are fighting to get one of around 450 seats"
I have asked a couple of times who those people might be.
I have been given suggestions rather than factual answers. These included commuting Nurses and Construction workers.
Is it legitimate for these groups to commute by air (without social distancing)? Presumably they have London accommodation and could simply stay there, but there might be considerable hardship not getting home.
Please don't attack me, I realise that these are very strange and difficult times and I have a genuine reason for my question. I have a daughter stuck in London working from her accommodation there, she could not come home to NI earlier as she had to finish a Covid related Government project (working remotely from her London accommodation but required to be close to office, just in case). She could now continue to work from home in NI but can't find out if she's permitted to travel LHR/BHD.
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Old 5th May 2020, 18:42
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Use an A330, 'w' pattern from Dublin. Would probably have to land at BFS.
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Old 6th May 2020, 00:13
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There are 4 320s @ BHD at the moment (Aer Lingus), so plenty of machines about. A crew will need to be sent up.
Flights on selected days at 0845 and 0945.
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Old 6th May 2020, 08:55
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Originally Posted by EI-BUD View Post
There are 4 320s @ BHD at the moment (Aer Lingus), so plenty of machines about. A crew will need to be sent up.
Flights on selected days at 0845 and 0945.
EI-DVE just positioned up to BHD from DUB.
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Old 7th May 2020, 12:41
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They're going to have to halve the passenger capacity and leave middle seats free - it's the only way to enforce social distancing on the flight. I don't know why this wasn't already decided long before this packed Monday flight. It's going to have to be health over money, with large subsidies for the foreseeable future.
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Old 7th May 2020, 14:09
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What does the law say they should do?
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Old 7th May 2020, 16:39
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How do you social distance on a Saam 340 or other small regional aircraft? With difficulty or keep a door or windo ajar during the flight??
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Old 7th May 2020, 16:49
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People need to get a grip.
As FD Roosevelt said... there's nothing to fear but fear itself.
There is a whole media fuelled 'industry' of indignant, self-righteous cocks pointing fingers at people like they are Nazi collaborators or something. But then again people literally have nothing better to do.
(Anti) social distancing in aviation or any other form of public transport is fantasy and pointless in any case.
By the way the WHOs recommended distancing in enclosed spaces is 1metre not the wacky 2metres that the genius's advising Boris cooked up - literally invented without any scientific evidence to back it up.
1m is just verging on the bounds of possibility for air transport - 2m forget it.
Life is full of risks; we take calculated risks every waking hour. Thousands die in car crashes every year why don't we ban all cars?
The whole thing is starting to become more about politics - just listen to that useless dipshite over in Holyrood waffling on today.
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Old 7th May 2020, 16:53
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Originally Posted by speedrestriction View Post
Nonsense, to achieve 2 m social distancing on a 320 series aircraft you will only be able to fit 2 people per row and leave 2 completely empty rows which will equate to 20 passengers on a 180 seat aircraft or a load factor of 11%. It ain’t going to work.
A certain green airline airline this morning gave a memo to handling agents as regards to the boarding of said green airlne, stating "to board in small groups" and "board from the centre rows outwards" (When boarding via steps). At all times, passengers to be seperated in this process by 2m !!, obviously a reaction to the percieved bad press they got the other day, but still fails to take into account that Social distancing is impossible once onboard the aircraft.

I guess, all airlines/airport and other transport mediums will by trying to give the perception 'Look what we're doing' to try and avoid the enivitable false outrage on social media as was witnessed the other day and associated bad press that comes with it weather it is justified or not in the intial days of scaling up operations. I fully expect all of this nonesence will soon die down when people realise that there's no such thing as 'the new normal' !! A phrase I'm tired of hearing already.

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Old 7th May 2020, 16:58
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Thousands die in car crashes every year why don't we ban all cars?
I take it you donít wear a seatbelt, regularly break the speed limit, and drive like a maniac? Or do you do all you can to mitigate the risks inherent in travelling by car?

Geniuses much wiser than you and I are dealing with, researching and doing their best to understand and mitigate the risks of SARS-CoV-2. Iím as frustrated as the next person with lockdown, its economic and social impacts and wish nothing but full recovery for aviation - when it is safe to do so.
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Old 7th May 2020, 22:59
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Isn't it wonderful the people who do things, then regret it and have to tell the world how wronged they were. Any person who believes in any way that social spacing can be achieved on a plane/in an airport is an idiot. Why don't these people stay at home, regardless of what they want to do?
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Old 22nd May 2020, 20:00
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Has Loganair or eastern hinted a date they expect to fly from bhd again ?
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Old 22nd May 2020, 20:14
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Originally Posted by BHD2BFS View Post
Has Loganair or eastern hinted a date they expect to fly from bhd again ?
Eastern Airways start flying on the 15th June to SOU and MME from BHD

Loganair start flying on the 6th July to ABZ, INV and DND from BHD
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Old 22nd May 2020, 21:00
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Did Eastern not mention they might expand a few extra routes from BHD or am I imagining things
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Old 22nd May 2020, 21:09
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Originally Posted by Alteagod View Post
Did Eastern not mention they might expand a few extra routes from BHD or am I imagining things
im quite sure that Eastern said 6 routes are going to added from BHD
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Old 22nd May 2020, 22:17
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looks like from the 6th July there is some form of normally flying again from BHD

06:50 BA1427 -LHR

08:45 EI930 -LHR

09:20 BA1423 -LHR

11:25 LOGANAIR -INV

12:30 LOGANAIR -ABZ

12:30 EASTERN -SOU

13:15 EI932 -LHR

14:55 BA1417 -LHR

15:00 LOGANAIR -DND

15:45 EASTERN -MME

17:20 EI936 -LHR

19:00 BA1419 -LHR

20:10 BA1421 -LHR
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Old 23rd May 2020, 00:19
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Originally Posted by panpanpanpan View Post
Thatíll be good to see. A return to normal schedules at all airports would be fantastic but I think itíll be some time before that happens. Iím not sure if there were any holiday flights scheduled from Harbour this year, canít imagine those happening for a while!
Nope, no holidays scheduled this year, I doubt there will be many opportunities for them in the coming years either which is a pity.
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Old 23rd May 2020, 12:32
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3 airports ain't going to survive for 1.8 million people. Nobody I know has committed to flying for leisure purposes the rest of this year. Anybody flying for business has scaled back to absolute minimum. Several normal high business frequent fliers, are now seeing the advantages of technology. Basically they have been forced to use it and are raving about the money and time saved vs flying.
The owners at BCA will be looking at other options for the place, if they have their heads screwed on. Urban village would work well. What a waste of land for an airport. Between port authorities, and planning I am sure they could come with a viable option coining everybody in.
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Old 23rd May 2020, 14:39
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Maybe some of us just want to get back to work at the City Airport and are getting a bit pissed as all these armchair analysts!!!!
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Old 23rd May 2020, 15:02
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It won't be the management team down there. It will be many, many levels above. They will be oblivious to any such talk.
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