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If there is any sense at City, they will leave as is. I traded my easyJet Plus and ‘Priority’ security at Aldergrove (moving to City unless no other option) when they started selling to the masses and it made journey times through at peak times very inconsistent. That will hopefully improve with the new security setup.
Your point about business travellers at Aldergrove is somewhat moot. How many of those business travellers at Aldergrove are paying anywhere near the fare they would at Belfast City? I’d bet not very many and that’s the important part. When you pay peanuts to get on a flight, you accept that the service will come with inevitable pain at some point. When you pay through the nose for a service, you expect it to be much better and will rightly complain if it isn’t. Belfast’s two airports have very differing markets in the most part!
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Security delays
I think posters are missing the moot point here.
Paying for fast track is rewarding failure.
A failing security system generates additional revenue by forcing time restricted travellers to pay a hefty additional premium for a service they have already paid for.
The UK should adopt the policy of the Irish DoT where airports are fined if they fail to meet agreed performance standards.
Last year Dublin Airport was fined €700,000 for exceeding Queueing performance standards on 4 (four!) occasions, once by 8 seconds in excess of the 30 minute maximum!
Without some form of oversight by the authorities airports will continue to treat their customers with disdain.
Paying for fast track is rewarding failure.
A failing security system generates additional revenue by forcing time restricted travellers to pay a hefty additional premium for a service they have already paid for.
The UK should adopt the policy of the Irish DoT where airports are fined if they fail to meet agreed performance standards.
Last year Dublin Airport was fined €700,000 for exceeding Queueing performance standards on 4 (four!) occasions, once by 8 seconds in excess of the 30 minute maximum!
Without some form of oversight by the authorities airports will continue to treat their customers with disdain.
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To follow left rudder, I believe that it is essential that an airport have a fast-track *process* but agree that it shouldn't be a vended option, but should be reserved for urgent situations.
For example I was once fast-tracked at City after the oversized-baggage guys took nearly 30 minutes to process my already-disassembled-and-bagged bicycle for a BA flight. I was in jeopardy of missing boarding, so I was sent through ASAP.
For example I was once fast-tracked at City after the oversized-baggage guys took nearly 30 minutes to process my already-disassembled-and-bagged bicycle for a BA flight. I was in jeopardy of missing boarding, so I was sent through ASAP.
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Your point about business travellers at Aldergrove is somewhat moot. How many of those business travellers at Aldergrove are paying anywhere near the fare they would at Belfast City? I’d bet not very many and that’s the important part. When you pay peanuts to get on a flight, you accept that the service will come with inevitable pain at some point. When you pay through the nose for a service, you expect it to be much better and will rightly complain if it isn’t. Belfast’s two airports have very differing markets in the most part!
We can assume BHD resident carriers charge higher fares, but Business travellers mostly book late, certainly on SH. Have you ever seen the price of tickets in the last few days on LCCs? Can be eye watering. I'd argue the design of yield management systems is not designed to be low prices close to travel date (yes there can be exceptions on a route where there is over capacity, and softer load factors), the bit that business travellers are after. easyJet have a very well developed business traveller following, they have a big focus on corporates and SMEs, and again yes they are not as notable in that space as BA, let's not forget we are comparing a very sizeable domestic easyJet opetation with 1 BA route to LHR...which has lower loads and quite a lot of economy leisure travellers .... BFS has probably more than it's fair share of business travellers ...
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Also when we say BHD is more expensive and yes it is a fair bit of the time, it's very much relational to LON. When you start looking at say BHX, MAN, GLA, EDI fares on BE can be relatively similar to EZY and sometimes cheaper, there's a fair bit of leisure business out of BHD too.
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Free ice cream again !!
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Proper procedure to ensure safety of passengers followed and Peer is outraged!!
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Up to 7 per day to Birmingham/Manchester
Up to 4 per day to Edinburgh/Glasgow
Up to 6 per day to London City
Up to 3 per day to Southampton/East Midlands
Up to 4 per day to Edinburgh/Glasgow
Up to 6 per day to London City
Up to 3 per day to Southampton/East Midlands
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Doncaster will be 4 weekly the winter, Exeter daily. Cardiff no one knows about so it's unknown whether the route will be dropped or not.
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http://www.belfastcityairport.com/BC...e9c4ab76e9.pdf
A quick google search gives the link above, the 2.6 million was a few years ago. After successful marketing and promotion of the airport the latest figure appears to be 2.1 million with a downward trend. You have to remember though that the Minister for Propaganda is always right! Utterly delusional, any growth recently has all been at Aldergrove that I can see anyway.
I see movements are down as well by over 25%, is this also being sold as a success story? The other point worthy of note in that report is the amount of flights using the flight path over Belfast Lough, its still a bias but only just! I'm sure the local concerned residents are really happy with that particular item, I can recall that being 65% and greater in years gone past and that was with more movements. Perhaps the good folk in ATC have lost interest and prefer the easier life now.
A quick google search gives the link above, the 2.6 million was a few years ago. After successful marketing and promotion of the airport the latest figure appears to be 2.1 million with a downward trend. You have to remember though that the Minister for Propaganda is always right! Utterly delusional, any growth recently has all been at Aldergrove that I can see anyway.
I see movements are down as well by over 25%, is this also being sold as a success story? The other point worthy of note in that report is the amount of flights using the flight path over Belfast Lough, its still a bias but only just! I'm sure the local concerned residents are really happy with that particular item, I can recall that being 65% and greater in years gone past and that was with more movements. Perhaps the good folk in ATC have lost interest and prefer the easier life now.
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