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Old 18th Jul 2018, 21:50
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Originally Posted by GAZMO View Post
I wouldn't see the need for any mention of it on the BHD website ? All pax, the aircraft and crew were safe and all other flights continued to operate as normal - Obviously excluding the aircrafts next scheduled departure to GLA which was obviously subsequently cancelled whilst the window was fixed.
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Old 19th Jul 2018, 11:28
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BE on sale now to mid June 2019.

LCY x6 daily
BHX & MAN x7 daily
LBA x5 daily
EMA, GLA, EDI x4 daily

Not checked much else but good to see frequencies staying intact.
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Old 19th Jul 2018, 12:50
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Flybe

Wonder what will happen once FR go twice daily on the MAN route. Spat with EZY for pax and BE have reduced
from 9 to 7. CAA figures should be interesting next few months.
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Old 19th Jul 2018, 14:07
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Originally Posted by DC9_10 View Post
Wonder what will happen once FR go twice daily on the MAN route. Spat with EZY for pax and BE have reduced
from 9 to 7. CAA figures should be interesting next few months.
When on earth was BE 9x daily. Not ever to my knowledge
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Old 19th Jul 2018, 15:56
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BE, was 9 daily on MAN to BHD route. After the take over of BA citi express. It remained the schedule for two years.
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Old 19th Jul 2018, 16:03
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Originally Posted by DC9_10 View Post
BE, was 9 daily on MAN to BHD route. After the take over of BA citi express. It remained the schedule for two years.
And how many years ago was that, certainly not in recent times, in at least the last 4 years to my knowledge BE have been around 7x daily and that's definitely nothing to do with FR. If you are referring to BA Connect that was something like 2007, so two years of running 9x daily brings it to 2009,hardly relevant to say BE have cut 2x daily service at this stage when referring to next year's schedule and talking about FR/EZY.
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Old 19th Jul 2018, 16:09
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Let's then wait and see how the loss making, regional reacts. Can't keep a schedule in winter, can't keep a schedule in the summer and more emergencies than the Mater Hospital hahaha.
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Old 19th Jul 2018, 16:22
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Let's then wait and see how the loss making, regional reacts. Can't keep a schedule in winter, can't keep a schedule in the summer and more emergencies than the Mater Hospital hahaha.
And of course FR keeping everything going so well currently. I'll just ask you to remember last winter.....
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Old 19th Jul 2018, 16:28
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At least they let the customers know in advance. Unlike Mayflybe. Taking them to court under EU law for a three day delay. Would never book them again.
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Old 20th Jul 2018, 06:54
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I always thought it was 'FlyMaybe', not 'MayFlybe, which sounds like a combination of 2 buzzing insects
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Old 20th Jul 2018, 08:01
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Ryanair has had a lot of flight delays and cancellations this summer already. Their flights used always be on time but this year it`s different. They seem to lack enough flight crews because most experienced pilots don`t want to work for them.
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Old 6th Aug 2018, 10:22
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Flight Emergency

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/n...-37188041.html
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Old 6th Aug 2018, 18:12
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Gosh how exciting.
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Old 14th Aug 2018, 14:20
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Looks like BA and KL are in BHD for the winteralong with EI.
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Old 14th Aug 2018, 14:30
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Originally Posted by Alteagod View Post
Looks like BA and KL are in BHD for the winteralong with EI.
I think there was never any doubt of that
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Old 14th Aug 2018, 15:29
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There was a lot of chatter that KL were moving to BFS to get a 0600 dep. Obviously not the case then
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Old 14th Aug 2018, 16:19
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Originally Posted by Alteagod View Post
There was a lot of chatter that KL were moving to BFS to get a 0600 dep. Obviously not the case then
They've never really struggled to fill an aircraft so I don't see why they would. They'd have been at BFS from the beginning of that was the long term plan. There's a market for transfer flights via AMS and they hit a significant wave of them as they are plus a decent chunk of point to point business and leisure. IAG would gain literally nothing by moving operations in fact they would lose the current advantage they have in landing closer to Belfast than ezy/be, time is of the essence in business.
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Old 14th Aug 2018, 20:17
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AGP and FAO not showing as available next Summer from BHD. Any idea when they might come available?
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Old 14th Aug 2018, 21:03
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Mart901,

I don't think it's a clean cut case of saying;

'IAG would gain literally nothing by moving operations in fact they would lose the current advantage they have in landing closer to Belfast than ezy/be, time is of the essence in business'.

There are competing variables in this equation, take the 2130 curfew for example, this means potentially that there is one less rotation with an aircraft each day. That is a real fixed cost for aircraft related to the BHD operation, compare to EDI or GLA LHR routes for e.g.

Yes there is that issue of exposure to EZY and FR competing services, but you have to ask yourself, with the large IAG combined reduction from 10 daily to 7 daily, just how great is the BHD attraction over BFS? Not preferring either (though I admit using BHD is very pleasurable), what extent of transfer pax are using the route? MAN LHR was previously 75% and GLA/EDI 50%. If the level of transfer pax is so high , aside from KLMs token service, not much risk.

Bolt on to of that the contracts that EI and BA have with corporates, to me , such a move would not be high risk. Equally, given the steep charges at LHR, point to point pax will always find the other London airports significantly more economical anyway.

Not proposing to conclude such an arguement on here but this debate is far from proven, equally easyJet's assessment that 'there were no tangible benefits of using BHD', was far from a comprehensive study into the matter, given that Ryanair were then at BHD, and EI had just launched at BFS, so holding their loads under those circumstances was a good result. Obviously we can't ascertain impact to yield though equally we couldn't forsee what it might have been at BFS..
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Old 14th Aug 2018, 22:15
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I would stand by the argument if KLM wanted a pre 06.30am run they'd be there, probably from day one. To think they'd go to BHD for the craic but with a longer term interest in being in BFS would be ludicrous, they could easily do two rotations where they are anyway. IAG have cut down because FR are flying 3x daily on the LON market and have had higher frequency than this - all that said having flown on a packed EZY service to STN recently at a random off peak time and seeing fares in September of 7 one way on FR and 30-50 one way on EZY despite the extra frequencies I'd debate how long FR will be in the Belfast - LON market.
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