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Old 3rd Apr 2018, 20:58
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Originally Posted by snn20 View Post
Friend sent me this, from BFS mgmt https://ibb.co/kpuOUx
Have to agree with OwenC, that means absoultely nothing. A member of staff who replies to emails will not have the information, or if they do will certainly not give it away. Both airlines and airports like to keep things under raps, they won't simply release it to some secondary school student via email.
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Old 3rd Apr 2018, 21:20
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It's actually BFS who replied but in fact there probably is a lot of truth, they wouldn't know/comment although it is a rather firm denial on their behalf. I'd remind everyone where this story came from, the same poster stated IAG won't be operating BHD-LHR soon, I think this is more fantasy airport management than rumours with any substance.

The jetsgo offer for free parking has been running for quite some time now.

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Old 4th Apr 2018, 12:40
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Are we concluding that if KLM move that BFS would gain other SKyTEAM members?
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Old 4th Apr 2018, 12:51
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Originally Posted by owenc View Post
BHD management isn't going to tell a random member of the public before it is launched to the public.
And neither is BFS (given the enquiry was to them)
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Old 4th Apr 2018, 13:09
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Originally Posted by Alteagod View Post
Are we concluding that if KLM move that BFS would gain other SKyTEAM members?
If KLM move to BFS then we would expect any other potential Air France/KLM Group routes and airlines to be operated from BFS as well. That would include Air France, Joon, Transavia and Transavia France. However, it would not necessarily mean that all Skyteam airlines would choose BFS over BHD. There is no need for airlines in the same alliance to operate to the same Belfast airport, because no one would be connecting between Skyteam services in Belfast. Also worth noting, when Brussels Airlines commenced BRU-BHD back in 2016, fellow Star Alliance member United was operating from BFS.
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Old 4th Apr 2018, 13:25
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Originally Posted by A320.b744 View Post
If KLM move to BFS then we would expect any other potential Air France/KLM Group routes and airlines to be operated from BFS as well. That would include Air France, Joon, Transavia and Transavia France. However, it would not necessarily mean that all Skyteam airlines would choose BFS over BHD. There is no need for airlines in the same alliance to operate to the same Belfast airport, because no one would be connecting between Skyteam services in Belfast. Also worth noting, when Brussels Airlines commenced BRU-BHD back in 2016, fellow Star Alliance member United was operating from BFS.
Not neccesarily KLM serve Bristol and Cardiff other KLM/Air France airlines don't serve them. Same with LBA and SOU and LCY.
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Old 4th Apr 2018, 13:30
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Originally Posted by PDXCWL45 View Post
Not neccesarily KLM serve Bristol and Cardiff other KLM/Air France airlines don't serve them. Same with LBA and SOU and LCY.
I didn't say that other Air France/KLM airlines would commence operations from Belfast. I said that if other Air France/KLM airlines were to fly to Belfast, they would operate from the same airport as KLM.
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Old 6th Apr 2018, 11:20
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Does anyone know if Aer Lingus are planning on using ASL Ireland for the foreseeable future for their BHD sun routes, or is this just a capacity issue for 2018?
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Old 6th Apr 2018, 11:38
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Originally Posted by A320.b744 View Post
Does anyone know if Aer Lingus are planning on using ASL Ireland for the foreseeable future for their BHD sun routes, or is this just a capacity issue for 2018?
I would imagine it would be every summer, thats if EI keeps the sun routes. Will be a similar operation to the 767 in shannon that was used for a few seasons.
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Old 6th Apr 2018, 12:04
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Originally Posted by snn20 View Post
I would imagine it would be every summer, thats if EI keeps the sun routes. Will be a similar operation to the 767 in shannon that was used for a few seasons.
If that's the case then I don't think Aer Lingus will make it until the end of the decade at BHD, never mind reach their 10th anniversary! Surely there is no economic case for operating such a small base.
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Old 6th Apr 2018, 12:10
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Originally Posted by A320.b744 View Post
If that's the case then I don't think Aer Lingus will make it until the end of the decade at BHD, never mind reach their 10th anniversary! Surely there is no economic case for operating such a small base.
With the obligation to continue to feed Star Alliance carriers ex LHR for however long, canít see anything drastic occuring near term. When that obligation disappears and EI are fully integrated into the TATL JV and Oneworld, then I would think it would make more sense for either them or BA to take on the otherís ops in the airport financially, if not politically.
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Old 6th Apr 2018, 12:12
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Originally Posted by A320.b744 View Post
If that's the case then I don't think Aer Lingus will make it until the end of the decade at BHD, never mind reach their 10th anniversary! Surely there is no economic case for operating such a small base.
Honestly, im surprised they're still at BHD, let alone still operating the sun routes. When they operated the 767 from SNN it damaged their reputation quite a bit and drove people to fly from dublin however theyre back to regular 757 operations now. Seems as if theyre trying to run down the sun routes so it gives them an excuse to pull out
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Old 6th Apr 2018, 12:13
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Are you asking will they use ASL in 2019?

If so, any answer that's given is complete speculation. Quite frankly nobody knows, not even Aer Lingus. You'd be going several months down the road to find out whether this contract is renewed.
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Old 6th Apr 2018, 12:19
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Originally Posted by snn20 View Post
Honestly, im surprised they're still at BHD, let alone still operating the sun routes. When they operated the 767 from SNN it damaged their reputation quite a bit and drove people to fly from dublin however theyre back to regular 757 operations now. Seems as if theyre trying to run down the sun routes so it gives them an excuse to pull out
Are you really comparing the ASL 737 with the Omni 767 that was based at Shannon?

The Omni 767 had American crew with poor service. The whole service was the worst on the EI long haul Network and quickly became known as such.

The ASL 737 has become known as reliable despite it's age with cheerful Irish crew on board. One would notice no difference in service between an EI A320 and this 737.

So I'd advise you to be careful what you say, as it can be taken as defamatory, despite you talking out your arse.
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Old 6th Apr 2018, 12:39
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I think ASL might just be a lovely wee outfit for BHD.
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Old 6th Apr 2018, 13:50
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Originally Posted by Alteagod View Post
I think ASL might just be a lovely wee outfit for BHD.
It's a highly inefficient way of adding capacity though, and nothing more than a short term solution. If Aer Lingus genuinely wanted their BHD base to work, they would have leased in an additional A320 for the summer period to operate the sun routes. Simple economics dictates that the only options left for Aer Lingus are to expand their BHD operations within the next couple of years, or leave the market altogether. There is simply no third option.
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Old 17th Apr 2018, 19:16
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So has there been any more information on the KLM flight move or was the original poster that "confirmed" it just a spoofer?
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Old 17th Apr 2018, 20:34
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I think that is has been 100% confirmed that in all likelihood it is entirely pluasable that the rumours of KLMs move although based on an element of what some my construe as been completely factual is indeed no longer understand to be a true reflection of what is intended to be the intentions of KLM
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Old 23rd Apr 2018, 11:46
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Interesting to note looking at avios it's now possible to use points on EI flights to LHR, and there's times BA is classed as peak and EI is off peak.
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Old 24th Apr 2018, 20:25
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