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“Stobart Air is operating below the scenarios set out at the time of the capital raise due to the continued quarantine arrangements in Ireland, with limited flights operating," it noted in its trading update.
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I very much doubt it. CF management do not have the capacity to think outside the box. Under the current manager they have no desire to operate anything other than the LCY operation. The current leadership team withdrew CF from the regional summer flying program before we’d even heard of COVID-19. That summer flying boosted CF revenue by millions per year.
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The question was...
In the event would the CFE management be capable of withstanding pressure & direction from the IAG Board if it was thought a benefit & strength to the Group to have a feeder op inhouse.
Appears it could make sense in the new extraordinary world, the one drawback being the capacity of the Embraers.
In the event would the CFE management be capable of withstanding pressure & direction from the IAG Board if it was thought a benefit & strength to the Group to have a feeder op inhouse.
Appears it could make sense in the new extraordinary world, the one drawback being the capacity of the Embraers.
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Nobody was interested in the regional routes or PSO a few years back. In comes Arran/Stobart and they do a decent product and now everybody wants a sniff at it.
I think the incumbant has this in the bag!
I think the incumbant has this in the bag!
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That sounds as overly-optimistic as a Trump supporter saying the same thing.
Rumour has it that there are six bidders involved. Stobart will be one and this paper airline must be the second. With another four out there and no names as to who they are, I don't think it would be wise to assume or presume anything.
Rumour has it that there are six bidders involved. Stobart will be one and this paper airline must be the second. With another four out there and no names as to who they are, I don't think it would be wise to assume or presume anything.
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This white label or ACMI flying in the regional industry is very very marginal, historic has been and with the current market it wont be a goldmine now... with now even more "bidders" hunting for it the one that "wins" it is the one who is taking the most "commercial" risk themselves meaning spiral rat race to the bottom on price and conditions.
Also I presume, I do not know, but that the contract will be trimmed down... no one is flying at the moment so EI will not ask the historic routes and frequenvies I would say, and what are the fecking unions saying... can imagine they will raise their voice too on "stealing" the work, although EI has no capability themselves.
Also I presume, I do not know, but that the contract will be trimmed down... no one is flying at the moment so EI will not ask the historic routes and frequenvies I would say, and what are the fecking unions saying... can imagine they will raise their voice too on "stealing" the work, although EI has no capability themselves.
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I'm not so sure on this one personally. The CRJ900 will likely have performance issues out of some of the shorter runways such as BHD in wet conditions and if they're talking about E Jets, then maybe but this would be driving up the operating costs of routes which are efficiently served by props.
I imagine XFly will be after the work with SAS reducing ATR aircraft count. But the reality is, there's such an abundance of readily available 72-600's in the leasing market that it could be anyone's game if they are prepared to take on the fleet type.
I imagine XFly will be after the work with SAS reducing ATR aircraft count. But the reality is, there's such an abundance of readily available 72-600's in the leasing market that it could be anyone's game if they are prepared to take on the fleet type.
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I'm not so sure on this one personally. The CRJ900 will likely have performance issues out of some of the shorter runways such as BHD in wet conditions and if they're talking about E Jets, then maybe but this would be driving up the operating costs of routes which are efficiently served by props.
I imagine XFly will be after the work with SAS reducing ATR aircraft count. But the reality is, there's such an abundance of readily available 72-600's in the leasing market that it could be anyone's game if they are prepared to take on the fleet type.
I imagine XFly will be after the work with SAS reducing ATR aircraft count. But the reality is, there's such an abundance of readily available 72-600's in the leasing market that it could be anyone's game if they are prepared to take on the fleet type.
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- PSO is not up for tender, that is won by Stobart but flown as EI Franchise..
- EI Franchise is up for tender..
This is not a straight forward wet lease... their is commercial risk on the operator... I would think twice on it... but maybe 50% loss is better as a 100% loss...
- EI Franchise is up for tender..
This is not a straight forward wet lease... their is commercial risk on the operator... I would think twice on it... but maybe 50% loss is better as a 100% loss...
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Stobart Group has been forced into a defence mode statement saying they are still solvent after the (rumoured) loss of the of the Regional flying contract.
Stating too that the Directors stand by their recent assessment from 5.11.20 that the business is a going concern.
The numbers & liabilities appear very "interesting" however.
Stating too that the Directors stand by their recent assessment from 5.11.20 that the business is a going concern.
The numbers & liabilities appear very "interesting" however.
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Its not a rumour, they have been told so by Aer Lingus.
Following info from Travel Weekly.
Stobart Air has been told that it will no longer run regional services for Aer Lingus.
The Irish carrier informed parent company and Southend airport owner Stobart Group that Stobert Air is not the preferred supplier for a new commercial deal which would have started in January 2023.
Stobart Air will continue to operate the Aer Lingus franchise until that time.
Following info from Travel Weekly.
Stobart Air has been told that it will no longer run regional services for Aer Lingus.
The Irish carrier informed parent company and Southend airport owner Stobart Group that Stobert Air is not the preferred supplier for a new commercial deal which would have started in January 2023.
Stobart Air will continue to operate the Aer Lingus franchise until that time.
