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Old 3rd Jul 2018, 09:44
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May be a bit off topic, but couldn't resist this one....

Boyzone's Ronan Keating wades into Stobart Group row
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Old 3rd Jul 2018, 10:59
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May be a bit off topic, but couldn't resist this one....

Boyzone's Ronan Keating wades into Stobart Group row

​​​​​Is he saying, "You say it best - when you say nothing at all."
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Old 3rd Jul 2018, 12:48
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Originally Posted by DC3 Dave
​​​​​Is he saying, "You say it best - when you say nothing at all."
'Flying Without Wings' might be more appropriate.......
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"No Matter what" also fits

Wasn't Flying without Wings a Westlife song?
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Red face

Originally Posted by Plane.Silly
Wasn't Flying without Wings a Westlife song?
Ermmm, actually I believe you are correct...... I'm afraid Boy Bands were never my strong point.
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Old 10th Jul 2018, 06:10
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More shenanigans...

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...paign=DM798595
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Old 8th Aug 2018, 09:35
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How many E195s have Stob got available to service that DUB route? Was it 2 or 3 airframes of that type? Out of that number, what's the current number of this type currently in service and available on that route (if they've still got aircraft off line for maintenance then realistically when will Stob have the full compliment of E195s fully serviceable and online and sufficient crews rostered to effectively run a punctual and reliable DUB service from SEN)?
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Old 8th Aug 2018, 10:13
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It isn't just the DUB route that needs the E195s of course, but to answer your question there are three SEN-based 195s; G-FBEF, G-FBEH (both dry(?) leased from Flybe) and EI-GGC which is the first of the three that Stobart have bought and all are operational. The other two are due later this year and will replace the leased aircraft.
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Old 8th Aug 2018, 16:54
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Originally Posted by Expressflight
It isn't just the DUB route that needs the E195s of course, but to answer your question there are three SEN-based 195s; G-FBEF, G-FBEH (both dry(?) leased from Flybe) and EI-GGC which is the first of the three that Stobart have bought and all are operational. The other two are due later this year and will replace the leased aircraft.
Thanks, Expressflight. Of course, I meant other routes too, my bad.
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Old 27th Aug 2018, 08:30
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E195 - Tech latest updates?
If possible, can anybody provide the latest up to date status on the G-FBEF, G-FBEH and EI-GGC maintenance and tech issues.

Are all three aircraft currently available and operating services according to the FLYBE operated by Stobart Air published schedules, or do any of these three specific aircraft currently have tech / maintenance on going problems preventing their normal operational availability at this time? If yes, then specifically which reg?
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Old 27th Aug 2018, 09:24
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All three operational this morning and running to time.
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Old 27th Aug 2018, 10:01
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Thank you, CB.
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Old 27th Aug 2018, 12:24
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Interestingly, BE6251 this Sat 06:45 shows as operated by FlyBE and not Stobart Air.
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Old 28th Aug 2018, 13:23
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City jet just secured an Aer Lingus branding agreement to operate into LCY with two aircraft. Beginning of the end of Stobart Air? Obviously this is totally unrelated to the regional contract but a bold and cheeky move to get a foot in the door by City jet.... interesting times.
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Old 28th Aug 2018, 16:53
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I read that too on the Cityjet and the Aer Lingus and the City Airport thread. Good news if you ask me. Stobart Air receive 10/10 scorecard for ability to cock-up services. Those E195's are 10 or 11 years old and clearly have reliability problems.
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Old 28th Aug 2018, 17:04
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Originally Posted by mik3bravo
I read that too on the Cityjet and the Aer Lingus and the City Airport thread. Good news if you ask me. Stobart Air receive 10/10 scorecard for ability to cock-up services. Those E195's are 10 or 11 years old and clearly have reliability problems.
Cityjet's RJ's have an average age of 19 years old and Cityjet also have issues occasionally with cancellations.
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Old 28th Aug 2018, 18:01
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Originally Posted by mik3bravo
I read that too on the Cityjet and the Aer Lingus and the City Airport thread. Good news if you ask me. Stobart Air receive 10/10 scorecard for ability to cock-up services. Those E195's are 10 or 11 years old and clearly have reliability problems.
Well, Cityjet has 14 Avro RJ85 to choose from for, if I am not mistaken, a route network that requires 4 or 5 at most (are the Avros used on any other routes than DUB-CDG/LCY and LCY-FLR). If you have just three E95 that are all needed to run your daily schedulesm back-up options are slightly more bleak....
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Originally Posted by BA318
Cityjet's RJ's have an average age of 19 years old and Cityjet aluso have issues occasionally with cancellations.
I fly WX about 4 to 6 times per month, and not once over the last year have I experienced any tech issues, not once, nada.

I have flown BEE about 12 times since they announced using those E195s and I can honestly say I've experienced 5 tech issues, 3 resulted in fairly significant delays, the other two they pulled both flights after stringing all the pax along for 3 to 4 hour tech delays. Me and pax left high and dry to try get back home to Essex. Ended up buying Are Lingus ticket to Gatwick and the other was Cityjet into City.

Those Cityjet avro's are dated but plenty of them and they do an excellent job ensuring tech events are limited or rare.

Whereas at Stobart Air, it's been a complete and utter disaster running those three E195s.
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Old 28th Aug 2018, 19:22
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Cityjet have more crewing issues than anything else, plenty of Avro's sitting around. They've had to contract Jota across the summer extensively to cover the staffing void. In my experience Cityjet provide an excellent and reliable service.
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Old 28th Aug 2018, 19:23
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Originally Posted by mik3bravo

Whereas at Stobart Air, it's been a complete and utter disaster running those three E195s.
From April you won't have to choose Stobart/FlyBe again. Ryanair do, despite some recent publicity, operate a very reliable and on-time operation. In fairness Stobart do run a pretty reliable operation for Aer Lingus with the ATR's. I think it's mainly the SEN E195s that have been a bother. There have been teething trouble with the E195 operation, but this was never the plan. Originally WX were to operate a number of their SSJ-100s from SEN. The marriage was called off at the last minute the deal fell apart. I hope once RE take over the operation of all 3 aircraft and possibly source a spare things will improve.
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