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Old 29th May 2019, 16:16
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Unless you demolish the airport and build it east of the city which will never happen, this is the future.
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Old 29th May 2019, 16:24
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Originally Posted by mwm991
Unless you demolish the airport and build it east of the city which will never happen, this is the future.
Why do that? It is then so close by road and rail to Edinburgh as to render one or the other airport surplus to requirements.
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Old 29th May 2019, 23:01
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
The new pier opened Nov'94, NWA left in Oct'94.
Key point is Scottish Airports intended to get an ROI by funneling most of Scotland intercontinental out of GLA and leaving EDI to deal with city P2P, then Edinburgh became a much more well known city destination and GLA and EDI became competitors. EDI now does to GLA what GLA routinely once did to PIK. What a family!
Ah now I fully understand what you meant in that you were referring to the new international pier at Glasgow. Didnít pick that up. The power is now definitely in the east as I am having to fly more from EDI due to both frequencies /timings (eg CWL) and costs. Flights to LHR / LGW are frequently a lot cheaper from EDI than GLA so my company books me from there even though I live on the Ayrshire coast.
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Old 30th May 2019, 02:11
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Originally Posted by ScotsSLF
Flights to LHR / LGW are frequently a lot cheaper from EDI than GLA so my company books me from there even though I live on the Ayrshire coast.
What a ridiculous thing for them to do on so many levels... what is your companyís environmental policy? Having decided that you need to fly having a taxi taking you to and from Edinburgh seems absurd to save a few £!
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Old 30th May 2019, 06:11
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What a ridiculous thing for them to do on so many levels... what is your companyís environmental policy? Having decided that you need to fly having a taxi taking you to and from Edinburgh seems absurd to save a few £!
Taxi? Are you kidding? I drive and park up - it costs less despite the usual airport car park fees. The cost difference in return flights can be around £150 and £200. It only costs an extra £10-£15 in petrol which is slightly offset by the fact that EDIís terminal car park is actually slightly cheaper than GLAís equivalent so travelling the extra 70 return miles is still a lot cheaper on many occasions. The biggest challenge is the time to catch a red eye at 0650 with the journey taking 80 mins instead of 40 depending on how clogged up EDIís pathetic approach roads are. Now if PIK had an LHR service that would be a real bonus ......dream on!
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Old 30th May 2019, 10:18
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Originally Posted by ScotsSLF


Taxi? Are you kidding? I drive and park up - it costs less despite the usual airport car park fees. The cost difference in return flights can be around £150 and £200. It only costs an extra £10-£15 in petrol which is slightly offset by the fact that EDIís terminal car park is actually slightly cheaper than GLAís equivalent so travelling the extra 70 return miles is still a lot cheaper on many occasions. The biggest challenge is the time to catch a red eye at 0650 with the journey taking 80 mins instead of 40 depending on how clogged up EDIís pathetic approach roads are. Now if PIK had an LHR service that would be a real bonus ......dream on!
In the face of it I think there is perhaps an argument that's its maybe a little questionable, but your travel plans are up to you and your company and as such, none of our business.

You do raise an issue that, anecdotally at least, appears to be growing - that is more and more people from the GLA catchment flying from EDI "because it's cheaper". This surely suggests that, at least on some routes, yields from EDI are lower. It seems to me to then be a contradiction when airlines claim they make more at EDI and add routes and capacity at EDI rather than GLA. Can anyone explain this to me?

I can see possible economies of scale (and resultant cheaper fares) for airlines with a larger base at EDI than GLA (i.e. EZY), but in the case of an airline operating away based aircraft - i.e. BA LHR or LGW, I'm not sure I see how they can offer lower fares whist at the same time making more money. The obvious answer is that EDI are offering much cheaper charges than GLA, but this is vehemently denied by GLA people every time I've mentioned it.
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Old 30th May 2019, 10:45
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EDI to London flights can often be cheaper as there are simply more of them. BA to LHR, LCY and LGW, Flybe to LHR and LCY, U2 to LGW, STN and LTN. FR will
be reducing STN substantially shortly. It is a much more competitive marketplace than GLA to London with a substantially higher number of passengers.

There is no real evidence to suggest that EDI is any cheaper to other Euro destinations. It does have the added bonus of more inbound tourists and business travellers against the outbound passengers so potentially that is why some airlines are dumping GLA in favour of EDI.
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Old 30th May 2019, 11:40
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Originally Posted by nef
In the face of it I think there is perhaps an argument that's its maybe a little questionable, but your travel plans are up to you and your company and as such, none of our business.

You do raise an issue that, anecdotally at least, appears to be growing - that is more and more people from the GLA catchment flying from EDI "because it's cheaper". This surely suggests that, at least on some routes, yields from EDI are lower. It seems to me to then be a contradiction when airlines claim they make more at EDI and add routes and capacity at EDI rather than GLA. Can anyone explain this to me?

I can see possible economies of scale (and resultant cheaper fares) for airlines with a larger base at EDI than GLA (i.e. EZY), but in the case of an airline operating away based aircraft - i.e. BA LHR or LGW, I'm not sure I see how they can offer lower fares whist at the same time making more money. The obvious answer is that EDI are offering much cheaper charges than GLA, but this is vehemently denied by GLA people every time I've mentioned it.
The GLA LHR flights are always rammed with perhaps the e caption of the last rotation back to LHR and yes there are fewer flights and no competition. FlyBe have brought a degree of competition at EDI to LHR and LCY and Iíve been surprised at how full my FLyBe flights have been albeit more tourist connections than actual suits. Although with the business dress codes these days going beyond suit and tie it can be difficult to tell!
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Looking forward to the BA100 Anniversary Boeing 747-400 Domestic show flight planned for GLA (and MAN/NCL) in August.
Currently scheduled as the BOAC livery.
Club Europe should be a hoot!
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Old 31st May 2019, 17:57
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Originally Posted by CabinCrewe
Looking forward to the BA100 Anniversary Boeing 747-400 Domestic show flight planned for GLA (and MAN/NCL) in August.
Currently scheduled as the BOAC livery.
Club Europe should be a hoot!

ooh can one book?
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Old 31st May 2019, 18:25
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Yes you can book, BA1482/BA1487 on Aug25
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Old 31st May 2019, 18:58
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
Yes you can book, BA1482/BA1487 on Aug25
wow just booked - managed to get Club up and Y back on my Avios - thanks
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Old 31st May 2019, 19:24
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So you can book the same flight to and fro ?You just deboard and then board the plane again?

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Old 31st May 2019, 19:27
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So you can book the same flight to and fro ?You just deboard and the board the plane again?
yes - but the turnaround time is 90 minutes
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Old 31st May 2019, 19:37
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Is it enough time to exit arrivals,go to departures, go thru passport control and security and be at the gate on time?
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Old 31st May 2019, 19:42
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Is it enough time to exit arrivals,go to departures, go thru passport control and security and be at the gate on time?
Has Scotland suddenly left GB? Why have I not beeen told?

We dont need passports LOL - seriously though, gate closes at -20 and as I have will checked in online and will have BP in hand (on app) it will be no issue
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Old 1st Jun 2019, 23:56
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Prices went sky high in a few hours. i booked already LHR-GLA but BA system wouldnt give me seats on the 747 after row 33 to the front which is strange since during booking it s clearly stated that there is no businessclass on this flight..So what gives? Why is this happening?
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Old 2nd Jun 2019, 02:41
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Originally Posted by mariofly12
Prices went sky high in a few hours. i booked already LHR-GLA but BA system wouldnt give me seats on the 747 after row 33 to the front which is strange since during booking it s clearly stated that there is no businessclass on this flight..So what gives? Why is this happening?
There is business class but when I checked flights yesterday there was 1 seat left in J at an insane price. Its probably been sold now. But there is a J class on the service. I'm just curious about the F cabin!
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Old 2nd Jun 2019, 22:20
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I see EK now back to twice daily with A380 on the afternoon rotation and 773 back on the evening departure which should ease the cargo issues.
Interesting to see later in summer what it does to the figures
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Old 3rd Jun 2019, 16:32
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Glasgow and Aberdeen are owned by the same operated, and Aberdeen are losing flights monthly just now. Again much cheaper to fly from Edinburgh. but we are told by the Aberdeen Airport it is the airlines that set the prices. It never seems to come down to the landing fees and costs at the airport.
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